What would you do.....?

[gmorg]

At a "friendly" tournament today and am 99% sure I recognized a player that is not our age group and playing down. I was doing the book so didn't really have time to see if I saw the parents, who I sort of know (peripherally).
Granted we won game, but what would the coaches here have done?

Even if I told our coach I think he would shrug it off, and in this situation I don't care either. But I think it's a good think to know what other tricks orgs pull.

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[Greatdaytobeawildcat]

Our coach doesn’t put up with shenanigans. Last fall he called out an illegal player (it was kind of obvious with her wearing the helmet of a different org and different socks). Waited for her to complete at bat, informed ump, that was it.

I think playing down is way more egregious than playing off roster. It can be borderline dangerous.

 

[EdLovrich]

Waited for her to complete at bat, informed ump, that was it.

I am not certain about all codes, but this does not seem like an umpire issue. If the girl is listed on the line-up card/if the rules allow a player to be added to the sub list after lineup cards are exchanged, then that is all an umpire can rule on. He/She does not have access to birth records, home addresses etc. If an umpire DID make a ruling about an ineligible player, then that umpire was wrong (again, this depends on rules code, but if anyone knows of a code that requires/permits umpires to make eligibility decisions, please let us know).

 

[Greatdaytobeawildcat]

I am not certain about all codes, but this does not seem like an umpire issue. If the girl is listed on the line-up card/if the rules allow a player to be added to the sub list after lineup cards are exchanged, then that is all an umpire can rule on. He/She does not have access to birth records, home addresses etc. If an umpire DID make a ruling about an ineligible player, then that umpire was wrong (again, this depends on rules code, but if anyone knows of a code that requires/permits umpires to make eligibility decisions, please let us know).

Well, you have to inform somebody, and the ump is the logical person on field to inform. He/she then contacts the UIC / tournament director. So yes, the director made the decision.

 

[EdLovrich]

So yes, the director made the decision.

Then the correct person made the decision. That isn't what I understood from your first post. And really didn't need to wait for her to complete the at bat, once she was entered into the game it was contestable.

 

[Nimrod]

At a "friendly" tournament today and am 99% sure I recognized a player that is not our age group and playing down.

If it's a ''friendly'' tournament, then who says what's legal?

 

[bmakj]

for a friendly or really any unsanctioned event, unless it was alike a HS playing 12u, our HC would probably do nothing, except maybe brag after the game to the girls they just beat a team that had a ringer.

if it is a sanctioned event, I think you have to all them out to the TD. turning a blind eye towards it in order to not make a fuss . . . couple of years later, it is considered accepted practice. slippery slope

 

[gmorg]

for a friendly or really any unsanctioned event, unless it was alike a HS playing 12u, our HC would probably do nothing, except maybe brag after the game to the girls they just beat a team that had a ringer.

if it is a sanctioned event, I think you have to all them out to the TD. turning a blind eye towards it in order to not make a fuss . . . couple of years later, it is considered accepted practice. slippery slope

Agree. And that was the approach taken. Unsanctioned, shrug off but store in memory. At a sanctioned event, won't let that fly.

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[Nimrod]

In a friendly, there's nothing inappropriate about it. Friendlies are practice. Thank them for bringing better players to give you better practice.

 

[bmakj]

In a friendly, there's nothing inappropriate about it. Friendlies are practice. Thank them for bringing better players to give you better practice.

sometimes friendlies are not so much . . . I know DD debated for some time asking coach to schedule a "friendly" DH with new travel team started in town ("to give in town girls a place to play") by father of player DD played rec with, same position . .. reached out to nearly everyone who had ever played rec in our town, but never DD. would not have been really friendly (even though she is friends with a lot of girls on that team, goes to school with them all).