Quote from Mark H:
I've been reading his post. He and O'Leary do a really good job of using their software to isolate movements in the swing, similar to Mankin and others. It's very valuable information. I've known about O'Leary's website long before posting on here.
The trick is determining which movements in the swing are technique and need to be taught, and which movements aren't part of technique and don't need to be taught. Once the the red, green, yellow and blue lines are placed on the video to isolate a movement, the data needs to be correctly interpreted.
When I first came to this board I found it very hard to believe that two people could look at the same video clip and arrive at two different conclusions. Now I understand why. It's very easy to isolate movements on these video clips and then come up with a plausible explanation as to what the hitter is doing.
For instance, a person can look at a video clip of Pujols and TW; isolate the upper body "tilt" motion when they load, weight shift forward during their stride and finally heel plant; and conclude that they are adjusting "tilt" to location. A person could then take this information and develop an entire swing pattern around this movement.
A second person could look at the same information and conclude that the upper body "tilt" motion is the result of hip and knee flexion from the load, weight shift and heel plant movements performed during the stride. This second person would say that the "tilt" motion is naturally caused by these other movements and should not be taught as part of technique. HYP, wogdoggy, Hiddengem, wrstdude, and others at BBF would fall into this category. Obviously, I also fall into this category.
Of course the differences in opinion are what makes for a lively discussion and keeps some of us interested and helps some of us learn.
If you continue to read over there I suggest paying special attention to what Boardmember posts.
I've been reading his post. He and O'Leary do a really good job of using their software to isolate movements in the swing, similar to Mankin and others. It's very valuable information. I've known about O'Leary's website long before posting on here.
The trick is determining which movements in the swing are technique and need to be taught, and which movements aren't part of technique and don't need to be taught. Once the the red, green, yellow and blue lines are placed on the video to isolate a movement, the data needs to be correctly interpreted.
When I first came to this board I found it very hard to believe that two people could look at the same video clip and arrive at two different conclusions. Now I understand why. It's very easy to isolate movements on these video clips and then come up with a plausible explanation as to what the hitter is doing.
For instance, a person can look at a video clip of Pujols and TW; isolate the upper body "tilt" motion when they load, weight shift forward during their stride and finally heel plant; and conclude that they are adjusting "tilt" to location. A person could then take this information and develop an entire swing pattern around this movement.
A second person could look at the same information and conclude that the upper body "tilt" motion is the result of hip and knee flexion from the load, weight shift and heel plant movements performed during the stride. This second person would say that the "tilt" motion is naturally caused by these other movements and should not be taught as part of technique. HYP, wogdoggy, Hiddengem, wrstdude, and others at BBF would fall into this category. Obviously, I also fall into this category.
Of course the differences in opinion are what makes for a lively discussion and keeps some of us interested and helps some of us learn.