Spin

[BigSkyHi]

On these videos, is the first one bullet spin, and the one from the game where it drops is that likely a different spin?

Congratulations on the progress you and DD have made

 

[NJSwampdragons]

Congratulations on the progress you and DD have made

Thanks, she’s still doing a lot of stuff in-between, but has come a long way. She has been very effective this fall, throwing 19Ks vs 6 walks the last weekend she played. She’s relished becoming the #1 pitcher on her club team and generally facing the tougher competition. Her speed and accuracy both went up almost immediately when she switched teams. NJ isn’t exactly a softball hotspot, though.

The journey still looks long.

 

[Ken B]

Thanks Ken, do you have any cues for change-upS to get the fingers on the outside of the ball? We’re trying to do the Pauly change, or at least the beginning of it, but my DD’s fingers are always on the inside of the ball, leafing with the pinkie., instead of the outside.

Apologies ahead... This will be a brief response and I’ll try to add more when I get a chance.

In addition to Doc’s cues, ask her to point to the area on her forearm where she feels brush. It’s most likely somewhere along the medial/inside of the forearm and wrist (Line F.)

For the change, ask her to try brushing on the outside/radial side of the forearm (Line C.) More if it helps.



You could also ask her to brush the backside of the thumb like this:

Shoot for a spiral spin like this:

(Catcher's perspective.)


I’ll try to add more when time allows.

 

[Classof2020]

Hopefully this is helpful. I put it together in a rush prior to a clinic, so it's still a rough draft and I hope to clean it up someday soon. For whatever reason, I can't get the formatting and descriptions under the images to line up...

What an amazing gift Ken!! newbie parents should read and memorize this information. I spent a lot of time on this site and the web trying to learn this information for myself and my DD.

 

[DrRiello]

Apologies ahead... This will be a brief response and I’ll try to add more when I get a chance.

In addition to Doc’s cues, ask her to point to the area on her forearm where she feels brush. It’s most likely somewhere along the medial/inside of the forearm and wrist (Line F.) View attachment 19467

For the change, ask her to try brushing on the outside/radial side of the forearm (Line C.) More if it helps.

View attachment 19468

You could also ask her to brush the backside of the thumb like this:
View attachment 19469
Shoot for a spiral spin like this:
View attachment 19471
(Catcher's perspective.)


I’ll try to add more when time allows.

Good stuff Ken. I would imagine that curve would be with rise or at least fb?


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[Ken B]

Yes, although I haven’t really tried that cue for the curve yet. I really don’t use it much with the rise. On the rise, sometimes I’ll throw out the idea of brushing the back of the hand. I’ll try to remember to try it for the curve.

 

[DrRiello]

Yes, although I haven’t really tried that cue for the curve yet. I really don’t use it much with the rise. On the rise, sometimes I’ll throw out the idea of brushing the back of the hand. I’ll try to remember to try it for the curve.

I kinda like that cue. Brush back of the hand. She’s not having an issue but when she does that’s a good one. I generally say palm out or palm to third base.


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[Ken B]

@Classof2020 reformatted this and it looks much better. Please let me know if you're able to view it. Hoping to update it this winter with ideas on how we teach to throw each.

 

[fanboi22]

@Classof2020 reformatted this and it looks much better. Please let me know if you're able to view it. Hoping to update it this winter with ideas on how we teach to throw each.

Hey Ken, apologies if this was already asked or mentioned, but your pictures of each pitch seem to show everything as a 2 seamer. I am a big fan of throwing everything as a 2 seamer, but curious if that was purposeful or just what pictures you were able to procure for the document? Thanks in advance.

 

[jsoftballcoach]

I kinda like that cue. Brush back of the hand. She’s not having an issue but when she does that’s a good one. I generally say palm out or palm to third base.


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With the rise, you can be in great position but the thumb can get in the way and you won't get the correct spin axis. One thing to keep in mind.

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