Spin, Speed or Spot??? in light of the WCWS

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Oct 14, 2019
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Yes, nobody is saying you can throw it wherever you want. Only that if you locate perfectly, but only throw 55 MPH, we won't be seeing your mug in the WCWS.

Now it could be that there is an inherent bias from coaches that kids like that won't get a look at the OUs of the world regardless of whether they could get kids out on that level..not sure.

Like somebody said (or perhaps multiple somebodies), the best typically throw hard, locate and change speeds very well so....

Out of curiosity, does your kid pitch and if so how hard does she throw compared to her peers..?
that’s the slow pitcher’s dad speech. heard it 8 million times.
 
Apr 8, 2019
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Yes, nobody is saying you can throw it wherever you want. Only that if you locate perfectly, but only throw 55 MPH, we won't be seeing your mug in the WCWS.

Now it could be that there is an inherent bias from coaches that kids like that won't get a look at the OUs of the world regardless of whether they could get kids out on that level..not sure.

Like somebody said (or perhaps multiple somebodies), the best typically throw hard, locate and change speeds very well so....

Out of curiosity, does your kid pitch and if so how hard does she throw compared to her peers..?
When did I say you can throw 55 and be relevant? No she doesn't and why would that matter?
 
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When did I say you can throw 55 and be relevant? No she doesn't and why would that matter?
You didn’t and it would matter because I have a theory that many people who dismiss the relevance of speed (not that you were doing that.. explicitly at least) have daughters who don’t throw hard….
 
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Dec 13, 2019
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why assume that a fast pitcher only has 1 pitch? the harder you throw the better it spins. the harder you throw the better the change up works. the one pitch hard thrower is a fallacy repeated over and over on this site.
Hmmm 🤔 no...the Harder someone throws the faster spin there is~ is not so.

Rather This~ True that tighter spin can help increase velocity but spin in itself does not create velocity. Spin rate does not mean the pitch itself will be faster.

*There are definitely pitchers that are slower than the hardest throwers that spin rate is greater than the pitcher who throws harder.
* this is why spin creates illusion on speed velocity of pitches.

Also the variance between a fast pitch and a Change-Up whether that is a 55 mph pitch slowing to 45 mph or a 65 mph pitch slowing to 55 mph it is the same speed decrease. In either of those cases it is still a timing element that is basically the same adjustment for the batter.
 
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