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Aug 25, 2019
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USSSA RULE:

111. F3 throws her cap or glove and makes contact with a fair batted ball. The batter-runner is thrown out at a) third base, or b) home plate.

Ruling - DELAYED DEAD BALL at the time of the infraction. When a fair batted ball is touched by detached player equipment that is thrown, tossed, held or kicked by a fielder, all runners are awarded three bases but may advance further AT THEIR OWN RISK. In a), DEAD BALL when the batter-runner is thrown out, and she is awarded third base. In b), the infraction is ignored since the batter-runner has attained third base; the out stands, and the ball remains live (8.14.B.1, p 47; 8.14.D NOTE 1, p 48; 10.2.B, p 57)

112. The bases are loaded with one out. B5 hits a pitched ball for a home run. All runners touch the respective bases and score; however, R3 scores before R2. B5 also missed first base. A proper appeal is made at first base.

Ruling - DEAD BALL when the ball clears the fence. R3 is declared OUT when she passes R2 for the second out. B5 is declared OUT upon appeal at first base and NO RUNS SCORE. Runs scored DO NOT COUNT if a missed base (properly appealed) is the first to which the batter or runner is forced to advance when there are two outs (4.C.5, p 26; 8.18.O, p 52; 8.18.J, p 51; 10.1.F.4, p 56)

113. The pitcher or the defensive coach notifies the plate umpire that they wish to intentionally walk the batter.

Ruling - IMPROPER PROCEDURE. A team may intentionally walk a batter; however, they must throw at least four pitches to do so (3.BASE ON BALLS, p 18)

114. R1 is on first base, and attempts to steal second base on the next pitched ball. B2 steps across home plate after F2 catches the ball. F2 hesitates in throwing the ball because B2 is in the way.

Ruling - DEAD BALL and INTERFERENCE; the batter is declared OUT and the runner(s) must return to their bases. A batter may not interfere with the catcher's fielding or throwing by stepping out of the batter's box (7.12, p 39-40)

Note: If the batter is already out because the pitch was strike three, then the infraction would constitute interference by a RETIRED RUNNER, and the runner closest to home plate would be declared out on the inference

115. The pitcher is removed from the pitching position as a result of excessive charged defensive conferences. The pitcher returns later in the game and throws one pitch. The coach of the other team protests the use of an illegal pitcher.

Ruling - VALID PROTEST and the illegal player and her head coach are EJECTED. A player who pitches after removal from the pitching position for excessive defensive conferences is an ILLEGAL PLAYER. When a defensive play has been made by an illegal player and discovery is made before the next pitch, the offensive team has the OPTION of:

i) the result of the play, or
ii) replaying the previous pitch

(5.7.C, p 33; 5.7 PENALTY C, p 33)
 
Jan 7, 2012
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Oh yes, appeal plays can really get you thinking. Let’s try this one.. USA Rules. Basically the same scenario. Bases loaded, R1 at 3rd, R2 at 2nd, R3 at 1st, one out.. R3 from first base leaves on the pitch. Ball hit to F6 and tags R2 going to 3rd . R2 is called out. R1 crosses home plate and R3 passes 2nd base but misses touching it and is on her way to third. The 2nd baseman calls to F6 to throw her the ball for a live ball appeal of R3 missing the touch of the 2nd base. R2 ,after being called out realizes that a proper appeal would constitute a force out and negate the run ,obviously interferes with the throw to second base and the ball sails into the outfield. The umpire calls interference on a retired runner , rules R3 out for being closest to home , allows the run to score and doesn’t allow the appeal at 2nd base. Right or wrong? Remember, a 4th out appeal is only allowed on a runner that has scored and a runner that passes a bases is considered to have touched it unless properly appealed. Rule citation please
 
Jan 7, 2012
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Flash..you decided to repost my thread. You liked it? Or you thought it was worthy of discussion? It may come into play concerning the discussion of whether it falls within the ‘Spirit of the game‘ conversation that is being discussed on another thread. That’s exactly what I have been trying to extract from from the forum......So far......CRICKETS
 

ian

Jun 11, 2015
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11) batter touches the BB chalk with her feet she is foul. Ball touches the chalk it's fair. Makes sense.
 
Aug 25, 2019
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ELABORATION ON CASE #111 - DETACHED EQUIPMENT (Throwing a glove and contacting the ball)

Case #111 dealt with a player who threw her glove and contacted a BATTED ball. The GENERAL RULE on this is found in 8.14.B.1 (p 47), which awards each runner three bases. In addition, 8.14.B.1 NOTE 1 (p 48) stipulates the infraction causes the ball to become DELAYED DEAD to allow the batter-runner to advance beyond third base at her own peril, if she wishes

TWO SPECIAL SITUATIONS:

i) If the batted ball is prevented from going over the fence by the detached equipment, a home run is awarded (8.14.A.5, p 47)

ii) The three-base award under the general rule is based on runner position at the time of the infraction, so it is possible that the three base award could entitle the batter-runner to home (i.e., slow roller to the outfield corner; F9 throws her glove and stops the ball from rolling after the batter-runner touches first)

Finally, remember these two things about detached equipment:

a) it is not a violation to throw the glove -- the SIN is contacting the ball by doing so

b) Remember the 3-2-1 principle; the award for detached equipment is:

Three bases for a BATTED ball,
Two bases for a THROWN ball, and
One base for a PITCHED ball

but in all cases the ball is delayed dead and runners may advance further at their own risk
 
Aug 25, 2019
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USSSA RULES:

116. R1 is on second base and R2 is on first base with no outs. B3 hits the next pitched ball for a single. R1 advances to and stays at third base. R2 advances to second base and is obstructed rounding the base; she continues toward third base in spite of the obstruction. The ball is thrown to third base and the fielder tags R2.

Ruling - DELAYED DEAD BALL is signaled and OBSTRUCTION should be called at the time of the infraction; followed by a DEAD BALL when the obstructed runner (R2) is put out. An obstructed runner may not be put out between the two bases where the obstruction occurred, unless an exception applies.

If, in the umpire's judgment, R2 would have reached third base if she had not been obstructed, she will be awarded third base. When a preceding runner (R1) is forced to advance by the awarding of a base to an obstructed runner (R2), the umpire shall award the preceding runner the necessary base or bases

If, in the umpire's judgment, R2 would NOT have reached third base, she is awarded second base and R1 remains at third base

(8.13.B, p 46)

117. R1 is at first base. B2 hits a pitched ball toward first base. The batted ball makes contact with R1 who is still standing on first base in fair territory. F3 is playing in front of the base.

Ruling - LIVE BALL and NO VIOLATION, unless R1 intentionally interfered. When a runner is touching a base and hit with a batted fair ball, the ball is:

LIVE - if the nearest fielder is in front of the base, or
DEAD - if the nearest fielder is behind the base

(8.18.N EXCEPTION, p 52)

118. The batter is in possession of a non-approved or altered bat which is detected by the plate umpire before the batter enters the batter's box.

Ruling - NO VIOLATION; however, the umpire should have the non-approved/altered bat removed from the game/tournament. In addition, if the bat is altered, the matter should be immediately referred to tournament administration for investigation and possible administrative sanctions against the player, her coach, and her parents (2.10.E-M, p 13-16)

Note: an umpire should NEVER knowingly allow a batter to enter the batter's box with an illegal bat of any kind. Even if the defense complains that they "lost an opportunity for an out" because the umpire intervened, the prevailing issue is PLAYER SAFETY

119. The pitcher tries to pitch before a runner has retouched her base after a foul ball.

Ruling - DEAD BALL; a NO PITCH is declared when the pitcher pitches before a runner has retouched her base after being legitimately off that base (6.4.D, p 37)

120. The bases are loaded with two outs. A batter bats out of order and hits a pitched ball clearing the bases. The batter-runner tries to stretch her double into a triple and is thrown out at third base. The teams switch positions, but before a pitch, the team coming to bat appeals the batting out of order.

Ruling - INVALID APPEAL; appeals at the end of an inning must be made before all infielders have left fair territory AND the catcher vacates her normal fielding position. All three runs count (9.4.B, p 54)
 
Jun 22, 2008
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I do have issue with 116. If R1 remained on 3rd base and never attempted to advance to home, how could R2 ever have been safe at 3rd base? She cant, that base is legally being occupied by the lead runner. I agree with it being obstruction and the runner cannot be put out, but I do not agree with putting her at 3rd and advancing the lead runner to home.
 
Oct 11, 2018
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ELABORATION ON CASE #111 - DETACHED EQUIPMENT (Throwing a glove and contacting the ball)

Case #111 dealt with a player who threw her glove and contacted a BATTED ball. The GENERAL RULE on this is found in 8.14.B.1 (p 47), which awards each runner three bases. In addition, 8.14.B.1 NOTE 1 (p 48) stipulates the infraction causes the ball to become DELAYED DEAD to allow the batter-runner to advance beyond third base at her own peril, if she wishes

TWO SPECIAL SITUATIONS:

i) If the batted ball is prevented from going over the fence by the detached equipment, a home run is awarded (8.14.A.5, p 47)

ii) The three-base award under the general rule is based on runner position at the time of the infraction, so it is possible that the three base award could entitle the batter-runner to home (i.e., slow roller to the outfield corner; F9 throws her glove and stops the ball from rolling after the batter-runner touches first)

Finally, remember these two things about detached equipment:

a) it is not a violation to throw the glove -- the SIN is contacting the ball by doing so

b) Remember the 3-2-1 principle; the award for detached equipment is:

Three bases for a BATTED ball,
Two bases for a THROWN ball, and
One base for a PITCHED ball

but in all cases the ball is delayed dead and runners may advance further at their own risk

[Note Added I see in an earlier post you said this is USSSA rule set.] What rule set are you referring to? In USA Rule 8.5.F the runners are entitled to "three bases from the time of the pitch", not position of runner at time of the infraction.. Also NFHS Rule 8.4.Art3c states "time of pitch".
 
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