No. The recent discussion is based on this challenge:Is the discussion by some to suggest that a screwball can only travel on a flat plane?
Which has nothing to do with whether any pitch called a "screwball" can be effective or not, but deals with a very specific scenario.Sluggers and I have $100 each to give anyone with video proof of a 3-9 screw ball (RHP) that breaks. I’ve seen a handful of scrops, but never a screw ball that wasn’t anything more than drive left and throw right.
You're right. I was talking about the first live action pitches. First one is definitely a curve.I'm not sure if you are talking about the slo-mo starting around 0:17 or not. For clarity, the slo-mo looks to my eyes to be 3 to 9 rotation. For a RHP to a RHB that is screw spin. As for the first two "live action" pitches, they are obviously too fast to see the spin, but I'd hesitate to call the first one a curve (unless maybe trying to throw a back-door curve).