Sac bunt/error

[nixxy311]

Question about a play:
Runner on 3rd, 0 or 1 outs - I can't remember
Batter sac bunts but gets on because of a throwing error to first.
I had to score it an error to get her on base but technically it was a sac as the runner scored.
So now I have an AB that counts against batter's stats.
How should this get scored?
Thanks!

 

[badmonkey]

Pretty sure you record it as a sacrifice, ROE.

 

[nixxy311]

There was no way to score it that way with gamechanger. I'm sure I can go back and adjust the stats because it just seems odd to penalize a batter because she got on base

 

[badmonkey]

OK, I've never ran GC, and am not sure I'm right, but if I had the scorebook (an actual book, and a pencil), that's what I'd write down.

It is absolutely unjust to penalize the batter for doing her job, and putting pressure on the defense that forces an error.

 

[NBECoach]

Score it a sacrifice and the batter reaches base on the error. No AB charged to the batter.

 

[EC22]

GC allows it. Ball in play, bunt, sac bunt(safe), reached on error.

 

[CoachYodaD]

It is not a sacrifice if the runner reaches 1st base. It is an error. If you award her a sacrifice because you are only concerned with her stat, then you are not doing the rest of the game justice. You are taking away an error on the thrower.

Your girl still gets an RBI, and her On Base Percentage (to me, more important than Batting Average) gets credited. She is also awarded a base for her total bases.

Better to be longitudinal accurate than by a single game.

 

[SonicMojo]

This is correct:

GC allows it. Ball in play, bunt, sac bunt(safe), reached on error.

This is not:

It is not a sacrifice if the runner reaches 1st base. It is an error. If you award her a sacrifice because you are only concerned with her stat, then you are not doing the rest of the game justice. You are taking away an error on the thrower.

Your girl still gets an RBI, and her On Base Percentage (to me, more important than Batting Average) gets credited. She is also awarded a base for her total bases.

Better to be longitudinal accurate than by a single game.

 

[canyonjoe]

It is not a sacrifice if the runner reaches 1st base. It is an error. If you award her a sacrifice because you are only concerned with her stat, then you are not doing the rest of the game justice. You are taking away an error on the thrower.

Your girl still gets an RBI, and her On Base Percentage (to me, more important than Batting Average) gets credited. She is also awarded a base for her total bases.

Better to be longitudinal accurate than by a single game.

It is a sac and reach on error so the fielder still gets charged with one but the batter does not get charged with an AB. Reaching on an error does not help with on base percentage any more than reaching on a FC does.

 

[OsDad]

"If an error is committed and the batter reaches base, he is still credited with a sacrifice" per the MLB glossary, if that helps clear anything up.