Hope you were not cursing at me Bill because I agreed except for a pitch I threw against some of the best from 1969 to 1985 and then my family and military career picked up. I still pitched until 1995 but not at the elite level. However I have seen a lot of changes and one is the east and west pitching by the lady's I hope what you say is true Bill that the men's game becomes more involved with the elite women's game.