It differs for each girl but typically a 4-5 MPH drop from a fast ball is what I see. With that said you should see an increase in spin velocity....How fast should the rise ball be in comparison to a fastball? My DD is just learning this pitch and I know it will take some time. I just would like to get a bench mark on speed.
Do you know of any good videos that show this action? I found some videos but most seem to be bullet spin. Yes, I realize this is Rachel Garcia, but not everyone is going to be her.Personally, I had no significant difference in my speed from my rise to my drop. And I know many people who actually throw their rise FASTER than anything else.
I think this question is predicated on how they are taught a rise. Is it the "bullet spin" pitch? If so, it's probably going to be a lot slower. Bullet spin requires the wrist to turn, similar to how a baseball pitcher loses speed on a curveball compared to his fastball. So, not only do they get bad spin but they get a slower pitch. Back spin should not see much speed decrease.
I know men are a lot stronger (typically) in their wrist and forearms and it just seems like there is consistently a loss in speed for many of girls 13-18 YO this may not be the case in stronger more dominate athletes.Personally, I had no significant difference in my speed from my rise to my drop. And I know many people who actually throw their rise FASTER than anything else.
I think this question is predicated on how they are taught a rise. Is it the "bullet spin" pitch? If so, it's probably going to be a lot slower. Bullet spin requires the wrist to turn, similar to how a baseball pitcher loses speed on a curveball compared to his fastball. So, not only do they get bad spin but they get a slower pitch. Back spin should not see much speed decrease.
I know men are a lot stronger (typically) in their wrist and forearms and it just seems like there is consistently a loss in speed for many of girls 13-18 YO this may not be the case in stronger more dominate athletes.
Ditto 'X' a dozen pitchers i caught for.rise was definitely faster than her FB, of course she hardly ever threw a "fastball".