The barrel ‘turns’ then tilt happens... I don’t think that’s disputable.
What comes first? Direction or tilt? That is how tilt is created. It’s really a no teach. The front leg and front elbow do the adjusting in good swings.
Learn how to use your hands.The hand/barrel path dictates tilt.
Here’s a good tutorial on why a push is a push. Also why knob to ball gets a bad rep. Casey is perfect with his analysis.
Edit: learn how to use your hands and how to ‘load’ them.
The barrel ‘turns’ then tilt happens... I don’t think that’s disputable.
There's a lot to unpack in this video -- most of it not good. Let's start with his main idea that the slotting elbow somehow 'holds back' the hands. He says so many things that just aren't good:
'it's almost a two part swing'
'it's such a violent act (referencing the slotting of the elbow)'
'this delay of the elbow holds the bat lag'
'that back elbow is independent of your hands'
Yet from 1:05 to 1:10 when he says the primary ACTION the hitter is executing is the elbow slotting, you can literally see the hitter's hands torquing the barrel, and the elbow responding to that turning of the barrel.
It is NOT the 'holding back of the elbow' (whatever that means) that lets the lower half get ahead....it's the rearward barrel turn that does it. You don't slot and whip. That's not how any whipping action occurs (ie, a bullwhip). It's ideally tip it forward, turn it rearward, whip it forward.
Basically, Casey's saying a bunch of words words words that aren't reflecting what is actually happening even as he looks and points at it
He's getting closer. He admits 'knob to the ball' can be a very dangerous cue if wrongly applied. Can't argue with that. He says the hands are so important. Yep.
But then he describes a two-part swing that is 1) elbow slot 2) hands release. Nope. That's not it. He's STILL (mis)analyzing freeze-frame positions vs. understanding an executed movement.
And then of course Harold says the hitter 'does a lot of things you can't teach' which basically translates to 'yeah, I still don't know what the hell is happening in the swing.'
My two cents...
work=wins,
The torso/shoulders might tilt a little extra to get to a pitch. Although for the most part posture/tilt is set before the hands officially start.
Blast sensor calls it PCR, plane, connection, rotation. You can measure postural effects of the swing.
Basically I agree with @efastball here in the sense that what most everyone would assume to be some of the main components of a good swing e.g. coil, hold/continue to coil (depending on how much is preset) as one moves out in a good balanced position will put your body in a position to be able to hit all pitch locations effectively. There will be some adjustment/direction of the hands (look at the Miggy clip I posted) but with regards to posture, proper coiling actions will result in maintaining posture. Hitters that don't maintain good posture over the ball typically bleed their coil as they move out.
Tilt happens the same time the barrel turns. You want to be at your tilt (shoulder plane) with barrel turned at heel strike.
The OP was talking about posture over the ball...not talking about tilt.Only problem is not all coil. Some guys load more linearly. Style imo. Posture at foot down is set by the balls location/speed. Tilt is something different. It’s a no teach. The hands set the plane of the swing. Posture and tilt, djfferent right?