Pitching - Where to start?

[radness]

Do you think an overhand throwing drill where you instructed your new players to lock their wrist and 'push' the ball would be a good idea?

Nice to have more detail conversation!

I don't like locking the wrist. Nor do I like to do that when hitting, but some do.. and some teach that to batters.

Are you commenting that toward wrist stamps for pitchers?
If your commenting that toward wrist snaps for pitchers I don't see all pitchers locking their wrist when doing drills. Have seen pitchers do that throwing change-ups.

 

[ArmWhip]

Nice to have more detail conversation!

I don't like locking the wrist. Nor do I like to do that when hitting, but some do.. and some teach that to batters.

Are you commenting that toward wrist stamps for pitchers?
If your commenting that toward wrist snaps for pitchers I don't see all pitchers locking their wrist when doing drills. Have seen pitchers do that throwing change-ups.

I am equating the overhand throwing drill I suggested with teaching a beginning pitcher wrist snaps. And you didn't answer my question, do you think that such an overhand drill would be a good idea.

 

[radness]

I am equating the overhand throwing drill I suggested with teaching a beginning pitcher wrist snaps. And you didn't answer my question, do you think that such an overhand drill would be a good idea.

Thought my answer was pretty clear.
If you wrote another post about an overhead throwing drill I did not read it.

I don't like locking the wrist.

question answered

Nor do I like to do that when hitting, but some do.. and some teach that to batters.

Are you commenting that toward wrist stamps for pitchers?
If your commenting that toward wrist snaps for pitchers I don't see all pitchers locking their wrist when doing drills. Have seen pitchers do that throwing change-ups.

 

[pattar]

I am equating the overhand throwing drill I suggested with teaching a beginning pitcher wrist snaps. And you didn't answer my question, do you think that such an overhand drill would be a good idea.

She already said she does overhand wrist snaps..

 

[radness]

She already said she does overhand wrist snaps..

Yes thank you. Basic explanation

I do wrist snap drill. Utilizing an athletic position with elbow away from body, forearm parallel to the ground, snapping ball into the ground. Working on correct 12-6 spin. Snapping down to the ground, and retrieving with hand in the same spot ball was released.

Call it Snap Snag.
Snap ball into the ground and snag it as it comes back up.

I have players do it individually with both hands. Also works on hand-eye coordination retrieving ball. *Glove hand work! Repetitive and quickly sets of 20. Take some coordination to figure out as get better can go faster.
Want to work on ball going straight down so it comes straight up. If not controlled well ball will either bounce forward or bounce back.. don't want that,
Do want the ball to come straight back up!

Helps train players not to push the ball.

This position be considered similar to a basketball player dribbling ball
*similar position.

 

[ArmWhip]

She already said she does overhand wrist snaps..

I suggested an overhand throwing drill where the player locked their wrist and pushed the ball, equating this to the wrist snap drill in pitching.

I don't like locking the wrist.

And if someone made a post defended locking the wrist as a drill for beginners would you say

Cannot say someone shouldn't do this drill.
Just because one thing doesn't work for one instructor doesn't mean it can't work for another.

Good drill or bad, learning is always good!

Or would you say that good overhand throwers do not lock their wrist and having beginners do this drill is not a good idea.

Because that is how I feel about wrist snaps and many of the other pitching instructors on this site feel the same way.

 

[pattar]

I suggested an overhand throwing drill where the player locked their wrist and pushed the ball, equating this to the wrist snap drill in pitching.

yes you did. Glad we got that cleared up.

 

[radness]

I suggested an overhand throwing drill where the player locked their wrist and pushed the ball, equating this to the wrist snap drill in pitching.

And if someone made a post defended locking the wrist as a drill for beginners would you say


Or would you say that good overhand throwers do not lock their wrist and having beginners do this drill is not a good idea.

Because that is how I feel about wrist snaps and many of the other pitching instructors on this site feel the same way.

Okie dokie never said people shouldn't pick and choose what they might like just said think it's overstepping to tell other people what won't work for them
Guess what the softball World Isn't in total agreement with each other LOL

Of course there are things that people like and don't like. In my opinion just because someone doesn't like something doesn't mean it might not work for someone else if you've read my post I've already been clear. People teach different mechanics on dirt pitches than what I teach. But I wouldn't tell someone who's going to do something other than what I teach no you shouldn't do that it won't work it's bad.
Or it won't help.

imo its okay if people do different things.
Part of people finding their paths is trying things.

My comment was to say that there are some people that may need a drill to teach them how to snap. Actuate the wrist.
And that not all pichers are doing drills the same way with their body and arm.

Thankfully you weren't saying that people were teaching something that's called a snapping drill with a locked wrist.

Been fun conversation today got to go teach softball!

 

[Ken B]

@RADcatcher,
I’m going to share some ideas for consideration regarding active vs passive wrist snap. Is the wrist action the result of actively firing the wrist to propel a softball to over 70 MPH in women’s fastpitch or 100 MPH in baseball? Or is the wrist a key link in the kinetic chain that assists in the transfer of energy to the ball?

 

[Ken B]