No "load" for pitching? Anyone heard of this?

[Mike-Coach Q]

Here’s one with no back swing

 

[El Oso]

Trying to go from zero to 60 from a dead start is tiring especially for the thicker pitchers.

Have you talked to a lot of them about this?

 

[GunnerShotgun]

This is similar to a slingshot pitch with regards to not loading. You just step and go.

 

[ArmWhip]

Pitching is disrupting timing. I would add it to the repertoire.

I have a pitcher that uses this as her 'quick' pitch and it is very effective, most hitters freeze when she uses it. She has her glove in the same position, most of the time she drops out into a backswing, but on occasion she just launches with no premotion give away. She leans into her push off leg a little and goes. One little tweak she has added on her own is to sometimes shake off the pitch and before she stops her head movement she goes.

I dislike the use of the sprinters stance as a model for the pitching motion. I have seen too many pitchers who have been taught sprinters stance as a take off and never get back to being stacked. Sprinters come up out of their stance over the course of several steps, pitchers have to do it in one.

 

[CoachJD]

A pitching coach is teaching no weight transfer in the pre-pitch motion. ZERO weight transfer to the non-pivot foot prior to pushing off toward the catcher. No arm swing backward. No lean back, as in men's fastpitch. Nothing.

The pitcher is basically in the sprinter position. The pitcher's non-pivot foot is behind the rubber. The pivot foot is on the rubber. She uses the "ball in glove, no backswing" method. From that position, she immediately starts the pitching motion.

She does not load the pivot leg prior to starting the pitching motion.

I have seen a couple pitchers pitch like this. I didn't know this was something people taught.

 

[sluggers]

I have seen too many pitchers who have been taught sprinters stance as a take off and never get back to being stacked. Sprinters come up out of their stance over the course of several steps, pitchers have to do it in one.

When you say "stacked", do you mean "in the upright position"?

Thanks

 

[sluggers]

I have seen a couple pitchers pitch like this. I didn't know this was something people taught.

You and me both.

 

[flogzilla]

For those that browse Instagram, you can see several good examples of this on Danielle Rubin's @dr3pitching page, I think it has a lot of its roots in the studies / teachings of Foot Dr. Esia. (I could be wrong , wouldn't be first time). No real opinion, I think there is a big difference between visually trying to replicate something and actually understanding and implementing the finer points of a technique. Did see some good things attempting it though.

 

[El Oso]

You and me both.

You two need to get out to some travel tournaments a little more! The world is changing. Stickies in the pitching forum go back to 2009. That's 13 years ago. Things change. pitching evolves.

I see it being used more and more every season. With great success I might add. It has it's place.

 

[DNeeld]

I see it being used more and more every season. With great success I might add. It has it's place.

Could be a regional thing? I've see it quite often around my area for the past few years, with some pitchers having considerable success with it. Maybe it just hasn't gotten widespread yet. I certainly don't see the style as a vulnerability.