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Dec 10, 2012
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If an ump calls an infield fly on a pop up down the first base line a few feet behind the bag and the ball is actually caught in foul territory, is it still an infield fly or is that negated once its foul?
 
Nov 18, 2015
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MJ,

Thanks for posting. Please don't wait another 8 years to contribute again! :)

dlsump and Lance probably already answered the question. However, I'm wondering by the way you worded the question if you still have some confusion on the infield fly rule (IFR)? (Take a look through this recent thread as well: https://www.discussfastpitch.com/threads/still-lost-on-the-infield-fly-rule.39722/)

If the ball lands foul, it's not that the IFR is 'negated', perhaps it easier to think of it as it never being applied, since the criteria for calling it was never met. If X (IFR criteria), then Y (batter out). If the ball lands foul or is caught foul, IFR is never 'activated'. It remains either a foul ball, or an out. Whether foul ball or IFR is applied, both remove the baserunners from being in jeopardy of having to advance:
  • If ball is caught fair - batter out, runners can tag, but are not forced to advance
  • If ball is caught foul - batter out, runners can tag, but are not forced to advance
  • If ball drops fair - batter out, runners can advance, but are not forced to advance
  • If ball drops foul - batter 'safe', runners not allowed to advance
 
Jun 11, 2013
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If an ump calls an infield fly on a pop up down the first base line a few feet behind the bag and the ball is actually caught in foul territory, is it still an infield fly or is that negated once its foul?
If the ball is caught what does it matter except maybe for scoring as it's an Foul out to 3 versus a F-3.
 
Jun 22, 2008
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If an ump calls an infield fly on a pop up down the first base line a few feet behind the bag and the ball is actually caught in foul territory, is it still an infield fly or is that negated once its foul?

What difference would it make if the ball was caught? The batter is out on a caught fly ball, it changes nothing of the outcome of the play. If it wasnt caught, then no it would no longer be an infield fly as the ball is foul.
 

osagedr

Canadian Fastpitch Dad
Oct 20, 2016
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What difference would it make if the ball was caught? The batter is out on a caught fly ball, it changes nothing of the outcome of the play. If it wasn't caught, then no it would no longer be an infield fly as the ball is foul.

Well the batter is not out unless it's fair as I understand it...
 

osagedr

Canadian Fastpitch Dad
Oct 20, 2016
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Can wind be a factor when calling or not calling the IFR?

It should be, given that the IF'er has to be able to field the ball with normal effort. Clearly significant wind can affect what a player is able to do with normal effort. It might be a lot to ask for an ump to judge that though.
 

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