Hip/Shoulder Separation

[DRDRODD]

Not sure if this was directed at me. But I agree mostly.

It was intended for the OP but of course open to anyone’s thoughts or interpretation.


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[Bonesaw]

The bleecker guy is close. DECEL is not a thing though. Unless you are focused on the wrong movement.

 

[DRDRODD]

The bleecker guy is close. DECEL is not a thing though. Unless you are focused on the wrong movement.

Why do say DECEL isn’t a thing? If you care to elaborate.


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[Bonesaw]

Why do say DECEL isn’t a thing? If you care to elaborate.


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Because the bat is acclerating. So there must be some force on it. Hip rotation may decelerate but that is totally irrelevant.

Edit: The panel of experts seemed to have figured out that hip/shoulder seperation is pretty negligible. And that "Decel" is a key. How does "decel" "accel" the bat?

The reality is that force is applied to the bat. To the left(for a righty) and then rearward(to the handle).

The focus should not be on "decelling". But accelling in the right ways.

You'll end up looking like this



While his hips are NOT rotating he is acclerating the bat the most. He is applying the most force/time to the bat.

 

[TDS]

Because the bat is acclerating. So there must be some force on it. Hip rotation may decelerate but that is totally irrelevant.

Edit: The panel of experts seemed to have figured out that hip/shoulder seperation is pretty negligible. And that "Decel" is a key. How does "decel" "accel" the bat?

The reality is that force is applied to the bat. To the left(for a righty) and then rearward(to the handle).

The focus should not be on "decelling". But accelling in the right ways.

You'll end up looking like this

View attachment 20793

While his hips are NOT rotating he is acclerating the bat the most. He is applying the most force/time to the bat.

Yea, I see it as they decel as well but see it due to the hips extending against the the obliques contracting (swinging down to) which helps close that gap (more noticeable on off-speed).


UFA (up front actions) within the s-plane gets it all started.

 

[Work=wins]

I think the ‘decel’ thing could be a marketing thing or a complete opposite to the ‘turn the hips’ crowd. An over exaggeration maybe. Or a rebuttal to the drive the back knee, WHICH IS THE WORST INSTRUCTION KNOWN TO MAN.

the hips do slow down according to Kvest readings. As do all the segments at some point. These guys package it to sell. Decel pattern sounds better than ‘don’t rotate the hips’.

you always gotta take into account that this is their livelihood. They give out enough to get you interested and leave enough vague to get you in the door.

 

[_MIA_]

the hips do slow down according to Kvest readings. As do all the segments at some point.

They kind of have to since at some point they stop moving/change direction...

 

[big_bruiser]

Because the bat is acclerating. So there must be some force on it. Hip rotation may decelerate but that is totally irrelevant.

Edit: The panel of experts seemed to have figured out that hip/shoulder seperation is pretty negligible. And that "Decel" is a key. How does "decel" "accel" the bat?

The reality is that force is applied to the bat. To the left(for a righty) and then rearward(to the handle).

The focus should not be on "decelling". But accelling in the right ways.

You'll end up looking like this

View attachment 20793

While his hips are NOT rotating he is acclerating the bat the most. He is applying the most force/time to the bat.

I agree with you force must be applied to the handle of the bat. To me the force on the bat is forward though not rearward. Pull the bat down and forward against a leveraged hips.

 

[Rolling Hard]

Sorry about the orientation but what are your thoughts in regards to the comments in the below video..... His comments are based off of data generated from K-Vest.




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we are not playing golf.

 

[Rolling Hard]

Because the bat is acclerating. So there must be some force on it. Hip rotation may decelerate but that is totally irrelevant.

Edit: The panel of experts seemed to have figured out that hip/shoulder seperation is pretty negligible. And that "Decel" is a key. How does "decel" "accel" the bat?

The reality is that force is applied to the bat. To the left(for a righty) and then rearward(to the handle).

The focus should not be on "decelling". But accelling in the right ways.

You'll end up looking like this

View attachment 20793

While his hips are NOT rotating he is acclerating the bat the most. He is applying the most force/time to the bat.

Is that Bubba Watson?