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Want to add that (1) the optimal point of contact of the barrel with the pitch in relation to her body is around the heel/arch area of the front foot when viewed from across the plate and the pitch is down the middle for a stride that is shoulder width or slightly wider.
Also, when using the "hips first, hands follow" swing sequence (versus a "hands first" or "hands & hips together" sequence), she may need to setup further away from the plate. To establish the correct distance, lay the bat across the plate so the end of the barrel and the outside edge of the plate are aligned with the knob pointing towards her feet. The front edge of her shoes should align with knob of her bat.
"Hips first, hands follow" will allow her to hit the pitch deeper with wider plate coverage, and making it easier to adjust to inside pitches because she is further back from the inside corner.
You definitely need to define hips first or how you achieve hips first?
If you check my original response to the problem, the "hips first, hands follow" sequence is described.
If you check the loading sequence. I think the hands are loading too soon before the shoulders.. and the shoulders aren’t independent of the torso. Basically all turning together. That’s where the collapse comes from. Less stability and more trapped (no ROM) breeds less control. Getting the shoulders to slide before the hands work/load away is key.
One arm swings where the shoulders have to load independently from the torso to swing would be my recommendation. Or moving the hands in tight to make the shoulders react instead of pushing the hands back early and by-passing the shoulder slide/load for stability is what I would try. That’s how I would get the hips to ‘lead’ in space. A sequential loading. Load in order will stabilize at the right time and launching in order should be the result.
But for me I would fix the axis of rotation (posture) first and then move to the hands/shoulders.
edit: not a fan of ‘get your elbows here or there.’ I try to get it naturally.
One arm swings where the shoulders have to load independently from the torso to swing would be my recommendation. Or moving the hands in tight to make the shoulders react instead of pushing the hands back early and by-passing the shoulder slide/load for stability is what I would try. That’s how I would get the hips to ‘lead’ in space. A sequential loading. Load in order will stabilize at the right time and launching in order should be the result.But for me I would fix the axis of rotation (posture) first and then move to the hands/shoulders.
edit: not a fan of ‘get your elbows here or there.’ I try to get it naturally.
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Loading around the spine w a good set up can make this an automatic for some/most.
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Good drill IMO..Marcela starts her front toss sessions with about 20 of these (baseballs,short bat). Heck even TM endorses it..
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Just checking in with a recent swing.
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What are they working with her on?
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It's basically their program. Scap load, hands above the ball, hip hinge, finish, etc. They are pretty much working on everything at once but they are patient and the lessons have been over an hour. They are big on North/South vs East/West bat path.
