DD throws a flip change and really spins it on the side. The ball comes out the back of her hand and her pinky finishes on her hip. The other pitcher on our team is like a 2nd DD and her change floats and is to slow. She is a little better overall pitcher than my DD. Almost exactly what Hillhouse said above.
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Not to quibble with the semantics too much, but if it has side spin and comes off the pinky it isn't really a flip. I really like that release to give side spin vs the flip that gives backspin.
@Hillhouse - Thanks for sharing Bill.
Would you agree... that once the pitcher "takes out the IR and the whip from the arm/hand/fingers"... by releasing the ball with the thumb "inside" (next to the hip)... it will lose speed and it will also look the same as all the other pitchers because you don't change anything but the release...?
Just curious... with your years' of expert experience... and your years of observations working with pitchers, thanks in advance for your reply!
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Kent, (FastpitchPros) without question, taking out the whip is automatically going to reduce speed. That doesn't mean the follow through can't look the same though.
And yes, as long as nothing changes but the release it should look identical. Part of the issue is many people try to OVERDUE it with the flip change, making it look and feel 100 different from other pitches. It's only the release that has to change. Not cupping the wrist, etc.
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And yes, as long as nothing changes but the release it should look identical. Part of the issue is many people try to OVERDUE it with the flip change, making it look and feel 100 different from other pitches. It's only the release that has to change. Not cupping the wrist, etc.
Bill
Dont know what category it belongs in but its nasty. DD threw the flip until last year and her PC changed her to this and day one it was very good. DD is 13 now. Trying not to be that guy but havent seen a change with better movement. I
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I know I’ve read on here that the knuckles on the ball to throw the change can be picked up - but so far dd has thrown it for years like that and it has been highly effective. She throws it like a drop curve so it still has spin, just comes in slower. Thirteen mph difference. She’ll throw it like a backdoor drop curve or like a regular DC depending on the batter’s tendencies. Gets lots of SM with it. Her CB is her fastest pitch so this complements it very well with the way she releases it.
