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Fell Victim to the Chinese Change Up

Oct 4, 2018
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Some great coaches (like me, haha) pitch the girls with a true windmill. I learned how to pitch that way to help with the girls' timing and let them see a pitch more like they will in games.

But most dads just bring the arm back and through. Easy peasy, lemon squeezy.

I almost think a great pitcher could do that, late in the day, and fool batters (and be legal).
 
May 29, 2015
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Hard to tell but it does not look like she pass her hip again or continues past a normal slingshot follow through looking legal from here...this is just a slingshot pitch...at first glance anyway
You are correct that a slingshot pitch is legal. However, nope., that was not a slingshot. Not legal. She isn't "hiding the arm" as @erniekru said. She was taught (incorrectly) that her hand couldn't pass her hip a second time. She is banging that arm into her backside to keep it from passing her hip. That was taught.

Where her teacher was is incorrect is the verbiage about the number of revolutions/passing the hip/etc. is about the pre-release motion, not the post-release. Go back and read the rules that @marriard and I posted. Illegal. Each code words it differently, but essentially once the ball is released, arm rotation has to come to an end.

From watching the video, I'm betting the plate umpire didn't even catch it. Then again, it appears nobody did. Nobody reacted. The fact that she didn't throw it throughout the game also indicates she knows it is illegal (IMO).
 
Aug 19, 2015
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Atlanta, GA
She threw it periodically throughout the weekend. I saw her throw it in a game on Saturday and our game was on Sunday. I guess no one ever protested.
 
Oct 2, 2011
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Florida
I have actually reached out to the PGF director for Florida and he has said it was addressed after the event by the UIC who wasnt aware it was happening because no one told him.

These guys take these sorts of things seriously and are highly responsive so I know neither were happy it wasn't called properly.

People... protest if you need to. Or at least search and find the UIC and have a discussion.
 
Aug 19, 2015
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Atlanta, GA
I have actually reached out to the PGF director for Florida and he has said it was addressed after the event by the UIC who wasnt aware it was happening because no one told him.

These guys take these sorts of things seriously and are highly responsive so I know neither were happy it wasn't called properly.

People... protest if you need to. Or at least search and find the UIC and have a discussion.
Very interesting! I'm surprised none of these coaches did protest. These were some very high-level travel teams; top of the heap.
 
Aug 19, 2015
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Atlanta, GA
And, honestly, I'm not trying to make a federal case of this since we lost big regardless of this one pitch. I just had literally never seen anything like it and was curious to hear more from the pitching gurus here.
 

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Jersey Girl
May 27, 2013
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Regardless of that pitch being legal or not, that kid looks like she can throw some heat for her age - at least from the video it does.
 
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