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Jul 31, 2019
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Overhand Throwing:

At 14, throwing 60+ overhand puts you in that top 5% but is doable. I coach a 14U team, and 10 of 12 throw 60+ with three throwing 64 (two are catchers) and two throwing 65+. Getting there did not happen by accident. Foremost I'm anal about throwing mechanics, and it all starts there. Then at 11U, they started an arm care program that included J-bands, long toss, and under/overloading. I got the program from a former MLB pitcher, then with the help of a PT changed it to fit their age group. We do it during the "off-season", for 9 weeks. My SS is 5'1", 110 lbs and throws 61. The hardest thrower is my 3B/RF (65 mph) and she is 5'5", 120 lbs. The two that don't throw 60 have flaws in their mechanics.

60 mph throwing velocity is college level
65+ mph is D1 level velocity

Here are a few things that reference college player levels and goals:

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Exceptional 64-78 mph (Crystal Bustos throws 78 mph)

Softball Throwing Speeds by Age

NOTE: The following velocities are for travel-level players who are serious about softball. To include casual players and recreational players would skew averages too much. It’s safe to assume that recreational players will throw 3+ mph slower than the speeds shown below.

Age 17-18

As a throwing coach, it’s my goal that every player reaches at least 55+mph by her junior year in high school. This is attainable if a player puts in the work. BUT…my goal for every player is 60mph or more.

•Goal Throwing Speed: 60-65
•Average Throwing Speed: 54-57

Ages 15-16

When a softball player begins high school, the game speeds up dramatically. What this means is that players are all faster, beating out ground balls and turning more singles into doubles, scoring more often on singles from second base. Base stealers are better, and every position on the field requires more arm strength. It’s time to get serious.

•Goal Throwing Speed: 57-60
•Average Throwing Speed: 50-54

Ages 13-14

At this age, most players are still barely breaking 50mph if they haven’t devoted significant time and effort to throwing instruction and/or strength training. This is where players with naturally good arms separate themselves significantly from the pack.

•Goal Throwing Speed: 54-57
•Average Throwing Speed: 46-50

Ages 11-12

Most players I work with throw in the mid-40s at this age and need a lot of help. Fortunately, the game is also very slow and so many can still get by with loopy throws. But this will change drastically at 14U.

•Goal Throwing Speed: 52+
•Average Throwing Speed: 42-46

Ages 10 and under

•Goal Throwing Speed:
•Average Throwing Speed: 38-44

Pitching:

In my years, I have only seen a few 14U kids throwing mid 60's, and a handful of 12U throwing low 60's. It is incredibly rare. I find that most people have no idea what 60 mph is much less 65. Radar guns are improperly used, pitching coaches inflate numbers, and parents inflate them again.

Here is some of the info I've collected. I try to keep it current:

AgeAverage Pitching SpeedsHigh-end Averages
1035 – 39 MPH40 – 43 MPH
1138 – 42 MPH43 – 46 MPH
1241 – 48 MPH49 – 53 MPH
1345 – 53 MPH54 – 56 MPH
1446 – 54 MPH55 – 58 MPH
1549 – 54 MPH55 – 60 MPH
1651 – 55 MPH56 – 62 MPH
1752 – 56 MPH57 – 65 MPH
1855 – 59 MPH60 – 68 MPH
College+58 – 65 MPH66 – 74 MPH

~Keep in mind that a 74 MPH pitch at 43 feet is well over the equivalent of a 100 MPH baseball pitch that’s thrown from 60 feet away.

Average pitching speed in competitive college conferences, by Division:

D1) 60 – 68 MPH

D2) 58 – 65 MPH

D3) 55 – 62 MPH

Average College Softball Pitch Speed
The average pitching speed for college players is 58 – 65MPH, or 66 – 74 MPH for higher-end averages.

Division 1: 63 MPH or faster.

Division 2: 58 MPH or faster.

Division 3 and NAIA: 55 MPH or faster.

Junior College: 54 MPH or faster.



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radness

Possibilities & Opportunities!
Dec 13, 2019
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Fury_Mike,
Very comprehensive!!!
Excellent post!!!

Why this is overlooked by many is a mystery!?!?!

Attention to the technical in the technique are the small things that can make a BIG difference!

I will say this again...

It takes more than a strong throwing arm to have a great pop time. !!!!!!

* ADD
Healthy Mechanics
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Feb 16, 2015
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South East
The averages for the “serious travel ball players” seem to be very low on the OH throwing velocity IMO.


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radness

Possibilities & Opportunities!
Dec 13, 2019
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The pitching speeds on those last charts are slow to me as well.
Averages include everybody tho....

My goal with all catchers by starting 14u
(tail end 12yrs old)
is 2.0 to 2nd

Have 13 yrs training throwing
Breaking 1.9
Low at 1.83 too.

Commonly throwing
1.8 at 14 yrs.

15-16yrs breaking 1.8
Low 1.7's

Some 16yrs can break 1.7
Extreme 1%

These are Catchers training with a purpose!!!!

ZAP
 
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Jul 31, 2019
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RAD,

When recording POP times, do you:

  1. Use a pitcher (pitching)
  2. Throw angled front toss from 10' or so away, or
  3. Use the NCSA (Catcher starts with both feet square on the line behind home plate; in their stance with catching arm extended and ball in glove; start the stopwatch on the first movement; end when it hits glove/net at 2B; best three times recorded)
 
Jul 31, 2019
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The averages for the “serious travel ball players” seem to be very low on the OH throwing velocity IMO.


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For those that are struggling with the numbers being a little low, here is a link to the NCSA combine results. It includes events such as the 2019 National Fastpitch Speed Combine Fireworks/Sparkler, 2019 Scenic City, Fall Softball Combine (Tennessee), 2018 NFCA Ohio Combine, 2019 National Fastpitch Speed Combine: Ronald McDonald (Texas) and 2018 NFCA Pennsbury Classic Combine.


I also have a database from USSSA events, and some data from the St. Louis Showcase's
 
Jul 31, 2019
495
43
The pitching speeds on those last charts are slow to me as well.
Averages include everybody tho....

My goal with all catchers by starting 14u
(tail end 12yrs old)
is 2.0 to 2nd

Have 13 yrs training throwing
Breaking 1.9
Low at 1.83 too.

Commonly throwing
1.8 at 14 yrs.

15-16yrs breaking 1.8
Low 1.7's

Some 16yrs can break 1.7
Extreme 1%

These are Catchers training with a purpose!!!!

ZAP

My data with the catchers I work with is fairly aligned with yours. The three 14's which play for me are at 1.9's with 0.7-0.8 catch and release times. This is using the NFCA method.
 
Jul 31, 2019
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Here are more data points from ODM:

ODM AVERAGES
Over 15,000 athletes have been tested, from 7th graders just starting to play serious travel ball, to college players from all levels, and some USSSA Pride players. Now players can set a measurable benchmark and compare their numbers as they grow and become more athletic and also compare them to players at the collegiate level.

ODM Prep Averages

ODM College Averages
 
Nov 22, 2019
194
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Minnesota, USA
For those that are struggling with the numbers being a little low, here is a link to the NCSA combine results. It includes events such as the 2019 National Fastpitch Speed Combine Fireworks/Sparkler, 2019 Scenic City, Fall Softball Combine (Tennessee), 2018 NFCA Ohio Combine, 2019 National Fastpitch Speed Combine: Ronald McDonald (Texas) and 2018 NFCA Pennsbury Classic Combine.


I also have a database from USSSA events, and some data from the St. Louis Showcase's

I think the people who feel the numbers are low are forgetting that only half the country can play softball outside 12 months out of the year. These are national averages, not averages from the top club teams in your regions.

Also, these are averages, not goals.
 
Dec 19, 2019
33
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Oklahoma
In baseball anything below 2 seconds is pretty good. Pudge was a 1.75 but he was the best of the best! I think these times are pretty comparable to softball times. When focusing on pop time we need to really tell your catchers to get the ball in the air as soon as possible. Transfer from glove to hand and have your focus be on getting the ball out of your hand fast. Footwork is essential too. Practice practice practice....
 

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