Does Run Count

[daave266]

ok...in my 10U game tonight we were up by allot. Bases loaded, two outs. Batter hits a pop fly, 2nd base misses the pop fly, but our runner on 1st didn't go to 2nd right away. Girl on third crosses plate and a few seconds later the runner from 1st to 2nd is tagged out.

We're awarded the run. Other coach tries to argue with the umpire that it was a force out and that run doesn't count. Umpire argued back that it was a tag, not a force so the run counts.

I sat back and ate my seeds.

What's the correct ruling?

Thanks
Dave

 

[JudeDaRude]

ok...in my 10U game tonight we were up by allot. Bases loaded, two outs. Batter hits a pop fly, 2nd base misses the pop fly, but our runner on 1st didn't go to 2nd right away. Girl on third crosses plate and a few seconds later the runner from 1st to 2nd is tagged out.

We're awarded the run. Other coach tries to argue with the umpire that it was a force out and that run doesn't count. Umpire argued back that it was a tag, not a force so the run counts.

I sat back and ate my seeds.

What's the correct ruling?

Thanks
Dave

Out. Even though she tagged her, it was still a force out as long as if it were before she got to 2nd.

 

[grcsftbll]

Force out at 2B (whether she was actually tagged or got out at 2B doesn't matter), run doesn't count, I believe.

 

[MTR]

Force out at 2B (whether she was actually tagged or got out at 2B doesn't matter), run doesn't count, I believe.

Your belief is correct

 

[Comp]

This was just covered 4 posts down. Any time a runner that is forced is put out before reaching the next base it is a force out regardless of how they are put out.

 

[The Man In Blue]

How were the seeds?

 

[daave266]

How were the seeds?

I think they were sizzlin bacon, which is one of my favorites...although the girls tend to steal them quite a bit.

 

[Carsonsig]

these are interesting threads. the "girl was tagged therefore not a force" is a HUUUUGE softball Myth in our regional leagues.

this is for sure something I will emphasize with my umps going forward.

 

[canyonjoe]

This would make a good threat to make a list of imaginary rules like the above.