Core or torso usage

[Shawn]

5frames,

We are in agreement, the arching of the lower back is key.

What are your other check points? Myers is directions/movements of the spinal engine. Hunched posture, front shoulder moving down and in, hiding the hands. Stretching/loading the spring and then releasing the spring.

 

[Buttermaker]

It really isn't about bending the spine which is exactly what you are promoting with arching the back. He (Rich) is promoting the tilt happening at the hip joint.

 

[slugger3]

Front lat pull downs and seated rows...
Sets of 5-6...
80, 90, 100, 105, 110...
You want to work the shoulders, obliques, at lats...
Try it.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

It really isn't about bending the spine which is exactly what you are promoting with arching the back. He (Rich) is promoting the tilt happening at the hip joint.

What I am promoting is torso usage. Unfortunately many young developing hitters tend to lack an awareness of their torso.

 

[Rolling Hard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LNFjQACSg

I do not see a lot of arching in the lower back. I realize the pitch is up. I said before the lower the pitch the more arch position. I also do not see him rotating around his back hip. I like this swing model more than the Barry Bonds model.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LNFjQACSg

I do not see a lot of arching in the lower back. I realize the pitch is up. I said before the lower the pitch the more arch position. I also do not see him rotating around his back hip. I like this swing model more than the Barry Bonds model.

I see the torso being heavily used in getting the barrel to the ball.

 

[4 girl's dad]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2LNFjQACSg
I do not see a lot of arching in the lower back. I realize the pitch is up. I said before the lower the pitch the more arch position. I also do not see him rotating around his back hip. I like this swing model more than the Barry Bonds model.

RH, I’m not sure how you can say his back is not arched when you can see the top of his shoulders but his legs are almost straight up. Maybe our definition of arch is different.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

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RH, I’m not sure how you can say his back is not arched when you can see the top of his shoulders but his legs are almost straight up. Maybe our definition of arch is different.

In the photo above ... if you were to freeze the orientation of the arms/wrists/hands with the torso, and un-twist/un-rotate the hitter back to their original orientation in their stance, then his hands would still be behind him towards the catcher.

 

[Buttermaker]

What I am promoting is torso usage. Unfortunately many young developing hitters tend to lack an awareness of their torso.

The torso usage is about not using the torso to get forward. It gets turned forward. It's job is to resist.

 

[FiveFrameSwing]

The torso usage is about not using the torso to get forward. It gets turned forward. It's job is to resist.

It gets opened up ... and the torso is involved.