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Lol she actually set the tee up, she put the work in last nite while I was at work, great kid, hard worker, just having issue transferring this decent swing to live pitching
what do they do? They all show that same throw the barrel, direct hand path. Here’s LC explaining it again. Look at the young ladies hand path. It’s so obvious. This has eluded yiou all these years. It’s a shame.
The pelvis needs to work down to just like the hands. It doesn’t need to be at toe touch. It can be much earlier. What this does is keeps the hips ‘in’ to be used when the swing is launched. So the swing can stay on a straight line so to speak. To not pull off or lose space to soon. Here is Posey starting w some tilt in his pelvis. And losing it way before toe touch. Go figure an up and in pitch where he needed to be earlier.
The hands follow the pelvis’ direction. If your hands are correct the shoulders will follow the hands. The shoulders are just a platform to launch from. If you plane your swing through the shoulders you’re doing it wrong. That’s long and draggy. Causes a lot of compensations.
Notice when the young lady extends the hands. After contact. That’s drag. The compensation is to early extend the swing which causes rollovers and pop ups.
The hands follow the pelvis’ direction. If your hands are correct the shoulders will follow the hands. The shoulders are just a platform to launch from. If you plane your swing through the shoulders you’re doing it wrong. That’s long and draggy. Causes a lot of compensations.
Notice when the young lady extends the hands. After contact. That’s drag. The compensation is to early extend the swing which causes rollovers and pop ups.
IOW's allow the legs to be supporters.. Learn to use the middle correctly and all the leg noise will take care of itself (without the use of meaningless colored lines)..
get some A tilt in the pelvis early. Basically a load in the s plane during the forward move. So one can use that during launch. Folks confuse rotation w flexion/extension.
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Don't have much going on this weekend, so I gotta get in on this....
First is turning the barrel.
Second is swinging down.
(though he's also coming out of posture and pushing with the hands)
Hot take: I'm becoming convinced they're two sides of the same coin. Feel vs Real. I am gonna plant myself firmly balanced on the center of the turn the barrel vs. swing down fence. If the shaft is kept tight to the shoulder until you release the barrel and the posture and sequence is correct, then whichever way you want to think about it, whatever works for you. I suspect that with posture and sequence corrected both of his swings would look remarkably similar at full speed.
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Feel:
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Don't have much going on this weekend, so I gotta get in on this....
First is turning the barrel.
Second is swinging down.
(though he's also coming out of posture and pushing with the hands)
Hot take: I'm becoming convinced they're two sides of the same coin. Feel vs Real. I am gonna plant myself firmly balanced on the center of the turn the barrel vs. swing down fence. If the shaft is kept tight to the shoulder until you release the barrel and the posture and sequence is correct, then whichever way you want to think about it, whatever works for you. I suspect that with posture and sequence corrected both of his swings would look remarkably similar at full speed.
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nice post. If they’re one in the same. Why is one so different looking than the other? Do you see different power sources moving the barrel with the two examples? I think the checkpoint is the back arm. One is extending ASAP. The other example has the back arm staying flexed longer which lags/drags the barrel longer. Do you notice the hips come out of posture so it can make space for the hands to come through w the lagged version. I’ll post again so you don’t have to turn the page. Just a few differences I see.
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Yeah, absolutely - there are problems with both swings that would need corrected if they were actual swings. Posture, shoulder pulling off, and lack of release/extension with the first. Pushing, lower half and sequence issues with the 2nd.
Frankly if 2 kids came to me with swings that actually looked like this, I think the 1st would be easier to correct. In fact, with a swing like the first I might even suggest a cue like swing down on the ball to get less coming out of posture, shoulder pulling off, and keep the shin/spine angle matching. But I wouldn't want to see #2 either in a real swing. I even suspect that that's what's going on in these gifs, he's showing the young man what he's doing and giving a 'swing down' cue to correct it.
But I know these are isolations to demonstrate whatever he's getting at, so it's a little bit of a straw man.
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