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Oct 1, 2014
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Any other college pitchers that struggle with the pitch calling and technical teaching by their college teams?
Can you explain the scenario just a bit more? What is the struggle, delivering the pitch that's called or not agreeing with what's called?

When you say "technical teaching", are you referring to pitch mechanics, certain pitches, grips, etc.. or what?
 
Sep 29, 2013
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Can you explain the scenario just a bit more? What is the struggle, delivering the pitch that's called or not agreeing with what's called?

When you say "technical teaching", are you referring to pitch mechanics, certain pitches, grips, etc.. or what?
Poor pitch calling sequences and not utilizing a pitchers best pitches. Old school pitch mechanics being taught and not understanding or tolerant when open discussions are attempted in regard to pitch sequences and mechanics.
 

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Poor pitch calling sequences and not utilizing a pitchers best pitches. Old school pitch mechanics being taught and not understanding or tolerant when open discussions are attempted in regard to pitch sequences and mechanics.

If your DD is pitching in college, she is essentially employed by the coach. The coach gets to tell your DD how to pitch and what pitches to throw. Why? Because the coach is your DD's boss.

Do all college coaches know pitching? Nope. Are they all pitch calling geniuses? Nope.

How does a pitcher avoid a coach meddling with her mechanics? Win.
 
May 15, 2008
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There's a D3 coach at a college about an hour away that gives private lessons and still teaches HE. So coaching at a college doesn't mean that you are knowledgeable about pitching mechanics. And pitch calling is more art than science so it's always open to differences of opinion.
 
Oct 1, 2014
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Poor pitch calling sequences and not utilizing a pitchers best pitches. Old school pitch mechanics being taught and not understanding or tolerant when open discussions are attempted in regard to pitch sequences and mechanics.
That's a tough situation to find yourself in at any level, usually you've had some experience with both of those issues as you've come up through the ranks to get to the college level. But...regardless of how much you may have researched the coach's approach to these things in hopes there is no guarantee. Pitch sequencing is important (if your pitcher can deliver) but as has been discussed here a lot, that doesn't always happen. The mechanics part is more difficult with some coaches...often they truly just don't know and are unwilling to change. Winning makes most of that go away! and the Coach can think they're a genius.

We had one Covid shortened season with the Coach that recruited my DDs and then she left and we got a new Coach. So far so good but you just never know. My catcher DD is calling pitches for her twin this year and while it (the calls and the pitches) isn't always perfect it's usually pretty solid. They have a good read on each other as far as what's working or not.
 
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Any other college pitchers that struggle with the pitch calling and technical teaching by their college teams?
DD pitched 4 years at D3. She was a riseballer. Their home field was on an elevated part of the campus with wind blowing out more often than not. Coach had her throwing Drop a lot. She was a .500 pitcher first three years. But her catcher for 4 years broke the Program HR record and gained some clout and by the time Senior year happened was calling all the pitches. Catcher knew DD had a good rise and so Senior year DD went 16-7 and led the conference in Ks.

Coaches run the program, but that doesn’t mean they recognize how to get the best out of every player.
 

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Old school pitch mechanics being taught
Think that sentence does not serve a purpose because it does not define good or bad.

It kind of says listen to the person who is younger. Which is completely irrelevant to good or bad.

On dfp alone there are several older people who teach pitching mechanics and are exceptional in their knowledge and teaching productivity.

Communication skills and being
open-minded to have a conversation is regardless of age.

Possibly the phrase
'don't fix something if it isn't broken'
Is relevant to any person having gone through that conversation numerous times. 'They've already found the solution in success of what they prefer.'

It does not mean they are not open to change, it means they have already found success. Regardless of age.
 
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Jun 6, 2016
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Think that sentence does not serve a purpose because it does not define good or bad.

It kind of says listen to the person who is younger. Which is completely irrelevant to good or bad.

On dfp alone there are several older people who teach pitching mechanics and are exceptional in their knowledge and teaching productivity.

Communication skills and being
open-minded to have a conversation is regardless of age.

Possibly the phrase
'don't fix something if it isn't broken'
Is relevant to any person having gone through that conversation numerous times. 'They've already found the solution in success of what they prefer.'

It does not mean they are not open to change, it means they have already found success. Regardless of age.
Also, there's no such thing as "old school mechanics." The great pitchers when you played use basically the same mechanics as the great pitchers now.

What I'm confused about is how a coach recruited a pitcher (and the pitcher accepted the offer) when there was apparently massive disagreement on the basics of pitching.
 

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