Baserunners occupying the same base
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[USA] PLAY 10.1-1
With R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, B3 hits the ball to F6. R1 holds up as R2 advances to 2B. F6 throws out B3 at 1B and both runners remain on 2B. The defense does not notice and the ball is thrown to F1. No further play is apparent.
RULING: The umpire should call “time” and place R2 back on 1B. (8-3E; 10-1)
[NFHS] 8.3.3 Situation C
With R1 on third base, R2 on second base and R3 on first base, R3 legally steals second base but R2 does not advance. The pitcher receives the ball in the circle from the catcher and makes no play on any runner. May both runners remain at second base? Ruling: No. The umpire, after permitting a reasonable amount of time for a play to be made, shall declare the ball dead and call R3 out.
The USA case play relies on the umpire section (Rule 10) and is not specific to fastpitch.
With R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, B3 hits the ball to F6. R1 holds up as R2 advances to 2B. F6 throws out B3 at 1B and both runners remain on 2B. The defense does not notice and the ball is thrown to F1. No further play is apparent.
RULING: The umpire should call “time” and place R2 back on 1B. (8-3E; 10-1)
[NFHS] 8.3.3 Situation C
With R1 on third base, R2 on second base and R3 on first base, R3 legally steals second base but R2 does not advance. The pitcher receives the ball in the circle from the catcher and makes no play on any runner. May both runners remain at second base? Ruling: No. The umpire, after permitting a reasonable amount of time for a play to be made, shall declare the ball dead and call R3 out.
The USA case play relies on the umpire section (Rule 10) and is not specific to fastpitch.
"legally occupied" means that this is not necessarily the lead runner. Correct?
Example
runners on 1st and 2nd. Single to the outfield.
Runner #1 on 2nd rounds 3b and falls down on the way home.
Runner #2 on 1st reaches 3b safely and stands there.
If runner #1 retreats to 3b when Runner #2 is already on 3b, Runner #1 is in jeopardy.
Is my understanding correct?
radness
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if one of the runners push the other off?
actually Runner #1 is the runner entitled to 3rd base in your example. R1 is not forced to vacate 3rd so if 2 runners occupy 3rd base in this play, R2 is the one who can be tagged out.
Bob, thanks for posting the case play. I too often forget about the 2012 case book. But I will say this is the kind of ruling that is so out of the blue. There is no wording in the rule 8.3E or the rule supplement section that comes anywhere near suggesting the umpire should call time and reset the runners. And using 10.1 in this case is so out of left field. But Comp was right. There is a case play that says you call time and reset the runners.
Bob and Comp, follow-up question. In the example in the USA case play, what happens if B3 is safe at 1st base. What do you do with the 2 runners on 2nd base? Do you advance the lead runner to 3rd base?
