- Jul 14, 2008
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Well, I've pretty much had enough of your garbage dude..........
I don't care what other posts of mine you read.........As long as you read THIS ONE........
The grip I show is for what was asked in the previous post. "What grip should be used for a very young pitcher when doing these drills". I'm assuming an 8-10yo FIRST learning to throw the ball underhand correct.......If you think an 8-10yo girl is gonna hold the ball between her thumb and pinkie on each side of the ball your dreaming......Or still having flashbacks from the drugs you did in the 60's.........
When you first arrived on this board, you had the impression that ALL the people here were "hacks and rookies", or first time daddys........And you were gonna really straighten us all out........You couldn't be MORE wrong........
Your claim to fame is the fact that you lived down the street from a very good pitcher from the 60's. And that somehow makes you an "authority" on fastpitch?..........Oh and you "may have" pitched for a navy sub base team for a few years back in the late 60's.......Where I believe you got a case of "the bends".........
Big friggin deal........I'm not impressed.........PC seems enamored with you.......Good for him........Like I said, you two deserve each other.........
Speaking for MOST (but not all) of us here........Including my buddy Hal, who I like to poke in the side once in a while just to get him going..........
There are a lot of us here who have pitched for a number of years.......WAY BACK in the 60's and 70's, all the way into the mid 90's and beyond........Some of us, UNlike you, have given back by teaching kids.......100's of kids........1000's of kids........And MANY of those kids have pitched at the highest level's of the game.......Others enjoyed fastpitch through their HS years and moved on to other things........
Look........I've got GOOD MALE FRIENDS who are in the ASA Hall of Fame.........In fact, I've coached their kids all the way through HS and travel ball! I've coach with and against Chuck D'arcy.........I consider Rich Balswick a good friend........Whom I've known for almost 30 years........And who taught me the peel and Rise back in 1978.......I'm very good friends with Ray Allena.......Inducted into the hall of fame in 96........
I've got tons of D1 scholarship pitchers......Including my own kid who still holds records at her D1 West Coast School and in the NCAA record books...........And I've coached a WCWS championship pitcher who also won an NPF title from one of YOUR favorite teams, according to your facebook page........In fact, she is one of five pitchers to win 100 games, strikeout 1,000 batters, with a -1.00 ERA and average double digit strikeouts.....I don't claim the success of any of the young ladies I taught, because it was their hard work and sweat that put them where the were/are.......Nor was I the sole contributor to their overall success.........
And who are you???........Some old hippie dude who lived down the street from a 1960's era pitcher???........Awesome.........
Regarding the science of pitching. Athletic training has evolved light years since your hey-day........In EVERY sport........The fact that you are some ol' hippie dude stuck in the 60's doesn't stop progression/evaluation/advanced training with modern methods that have progressed light years passed you......
I'm sure if you had your way, we'd still be launching rockets into orbit, vs. say, the space shuttle..........And prop planes would still be the preference for the military air force..........
Thank god the people who are STILL looking for cures to all the horrible things like cancer and the like aren't "doin it they way they did it in the 60's"........
I don't like "your" peel grip........To hard to control trajectory.......ESPECIALLY for little girls.......And the person who taught me the peel grip was the person who BEAT YOU!.......
I'll say this about peel.........IF your thumb is STILL ON THE BALL at release you ain't gonna throw any kind of decent peel........So maybe because you were retarded, you couldn't get your thumb off the ball before your finger tips were ripping on the seams.........It might be something you struggled with.........But it isn't something anyone I've taught has struggled with.......The thumb is OFF FIRST........Long before the fingers are tearing up the seams........
When I (or any of my students for that matter) are throwing peel drop, I don't wan't ANY PRESSURE from either SIDE of the ball influencing the axis of rotation..........Especially the thumb on one side having a war with the curled up little pinkie finger on the other........Who do you think's gonna win that battle of pressures???
Now get off my case about what a god you are regarding the pitching motion.........Because I think you are a washed up old geezer who just can't get out of the tie-dye era.........
The DISCO ERA rocks!!!
You know all the FP science, but you don't care about the history of the game or how to make a peel drop better. Then turn around and kiss your own.......but don't fall in love with your self. I'll have to read some of your posts
I don't care what other posts of mine you read.........As long as you read THIS ONE........
BM I read some of your I/R post that stuck up top on the pitching, Then I see where some one wanted to see a three finger grip. Worst example of a peel drop that I have ever seen. Read my post and learn something about your wrong way of gripping the ball. Your thumb restricts spin big time with that grip for a peel drop. You make some thing so simple as a grip, so wrong, and don't have a clue why you are wrong. This is why this 64 yo X pitcher is here, to save people from wrong teachers like you. The grip you show is why a peel drop doesn't move and is called a fastball. How can a ball get out of that grip with god spin? It can't. I am referring to your picture on post 57 and 59 of the first Sticky post titled I/R in the class room or something close. Please explain what that grip is for.
The grip I show is for what was asked in the previous post. "What grip should be used for a very young pitcher when doing these drills". I'm assuming an 8-10yo FIRST learning to throw the ball underhand correct.......If you think an 8-10yo girl is gonna hold the ball between her thumb and pinkie on each side of the ball your dreaming......Or still having flashbacks from the drugs you did in the 60's.........
When you first arrived on this board, you had the impression that ALL the people here were "hacks and rookies", or first time daddys........And you were gonna really straighten us all out........You couldn't be MORE wrong........
Your claim to fame is the fact that you lived down the street from a very good pitcher from the 60's. And that somehow makes you an "authority" on fastpitch?..........Oh and you "may have" pitched for a navy sub base team for a few years back in the late 60's.......Where I believe you got a case of "the bends".........
Big friggin deal........I'm not impressed.........PC seems enamored with you.......Good for him........Like I said, you two deserve each other.........
Speaking for MOST (but not all) of us here........Including my buddy Hal, who I like to poke in the side once in a while just to get him going..........
There are a lot of us here who have pitched for a number of years.......WAY BACK in the 60's and 70's, all the way into the mid 90's and beyond........Some of us, UNlike you, have given back by teaching kids.......100's of kids........1000's of kids........And MANY of those kids have pitched at the highest level's of the game.......Others enjoyed fastpitch through their HS years and moved on to other things........
Look........I've got GOOD MALE FRIENDS who are in the ASA Hall of Fame.........In fact, I've coached their kids all the way through HS and travel ball! I've coach with and against Chuck D'arcy.........I consider Rich Balswick a good friend........Whom I've known for almost 30 years........And who taught me the peel and Rise back in 1978.......I'm very good friends with Ray Allena.......Inducted into the hall of fame in 96........
I've got tons of D1 scholarship pitchers......Including my own kid who still holds records at her D1 West Coast School and in the NCAA record books...........And I've coached a WCWS championship pitcher who also won an NPF title from one of YOUR favorite teams, according to your facebook page........In fact, she is one of five pitchers to win 100 games, strikeout 1,000 batters, with a -1.00 ERA and average double digit strikeouts.....I don't claim the success of any of the young ladies I taught, because it was their hard work and sweat that put them where the were/are.......Nor was I the sole contributor to their overall success.........
And who are you???........Some old hippie dude who lived down the street from a 1960's era pitcher???........Awesome.........
Regarding the science of pitching. Athletic training has evolved light years since your hey-day........In EVERY sport........The fact that you are some ol' hippie dude stuck in the 60's doesn't stop progression/evaluation/advanced training with modern methods that have progressed light years passed you......
I'm sure if you had your way, we'd still be launching rockets into orbit, vs. say, the space shuttle..........And prop planes would still be the preference for the military air force..........
Thank god the people who are STILL looking for cures to all the horrible things like cancer and the like aren't "doin it they way they did it in the 60's"........
I don't like "your" peel grip........To hard to control trajectory.......ESPECIALLY for little girls.......And the person who taught me the peel grip was the person who BEAT YOU!.......
I'll say this about peel.........IF your thumb is STILL ON THE BALL at release you ain't gonna throw any kind of decent peel........So maybe because you were retarded, you couldn't get your thumb off the ball before your finger tips were ripping on the seams.........It might be something you struggled with.........But it isn't something anyone I've taught has struggled with.......The thumb is OFF FIRST........Long before the fingers are tearing up the seams........
When I (or any of my students for that matter) are throwing peel drop, I don't wan't ANY PRESSURE from either SIDE of the ball influencing the axis of rotation..........Especially the thumb on one side having a war with the curled up little pinkie finger on the other........Who do you think's gonna win that battle of pressures???
Now get off my case about what a god you are regarding the pitching motion.........Because I think you are a washed up old geezer who just can't get out of the tie-dye era.........
The DISCO ERA rocks!!!
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