Are CLUTCH PLAYERS a real thing?

[radness]

For sure there are clutch players. Easy to determine who they are as well.
Bottom 7 tie game, ever person knows which person they want up. Regardless if you are the parent or not.

This post has a good point!
Thats a GREAT QUESTION !

Does everyone know who they want up
in a critical situation?

Is it because of their talent,
reliability, or personality?

 

[FP26]

Is it because of their talent,
reliability, or personality?

Yes

 

[GunnerShotgun]

Are clutch hitters just lazy when the game isn't on the line?

There is no such thing as "clutch hitting". The math has already been done on this.

 

[radness]

Are clutch hitters just lazy when the game isn't on the line?
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There is no such thing as "clutch hitting". The math has already been done on this.

As far as the MATH/stats viewpoint~
Imo, this is NOT the only way to evaluate talent!

Heres a possible answer to your question~
*Simply suggesting that during a heightened situation some internal assistance can kick in or not.

The Fight-or-Flight Response Prepares Your Body to Take Action

Fight-or-flight is a physiological reaction that prepares our bodies to stay and fight or to flee. Learn what happens during a fight-or-flight response and why.

www.verywellmind.com

 

[sluggers]

There is no such thing as "clutch hitting". The math has already been done on this.

I think you're wrong about this.

The book "Playing the Percentages in Baseball" by Tom Tango, Mitchel Lichtman, Andrew Dolphin, Pete Palmer did find that there was clutch hitting in baseball. They say, "Batters perform slightly differently when under pressure. About one in six players increases his inherent on base percentage by eight points or more in high-pressure situations; a comparable number of players decreases it by eight points or more."

My guess is that there is a much bigger "clutch effect" when the total population of players is much less experienced and skilled than MLB ball players.

(MLB players play 150 games a year, and have played professionally for 5 to 10 years. Softball players play 50 games a year for 4 years.)

 

[GunnerShotgun]

As far as the MATH/stats viewpoint~
Imo, this is NOT the only way to evaluate talent!

Heres a possible answer to your question~
*Simply suggesting that during a heightened situation some internal assistance can kick in or not.

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The Fight-or-Flight Response Prepares Your Body to Take Action

Fight-or-flight is a physiological reaction that prepares our bodies to stay and fight or to flee. Learn what happens during a fight-or-flight response and why.

www.verywellmind.com

So people that don't come through with a big hit in the bottom of the 7th really want to die? You are comparing apples to zebras.

Again as others have posted "clutch hitting" is a myth. Just go look up the history of the "Game Winning RBI" statistic to understand how absurd it all is.

 

[FP26]

So people that don't come through with a big hit in the bottom of the 7th really want to die? You are comparing apples to zebras.

Again as others have posted "clutch hitting" is a myth. Just go look up the history of the "Game Winning RBI" statistic to understand how absurd it all is.

Do you believe in the thought that the moment may be too big for certain people? That given equal talent, one person may struggle more than another in certain situations because of nerves, fear, or some other personality trait? In my opinion psychology has a huge impact on sports, and specifically on certain athletes. Chuck Knoblauch is a great example, in my opinion.

 

[Greatdaytobeawildcat]

About one in six players increases his inherent on base percentage by eight points or more in high-pressure situations; a comparable number of players decreases it by eight points or more."

Not for nothing, but going from .322 OPB to a .330 OPB isn't exactly compelling (especially since it would consider a "clutch" walk)...

 

[radness]

So people that don't come through with a big hit in the bottom of the 7th really want to die? You are comparing apples to zebras.

Again as others have posted "clutch hitting" is a myth. Just go look up the history of the "Game Winning RBI" statistic to understand how absurd it all is.

Its a discussion.
The fact the human body can react to heightened situations has been added to it.

You may evaluate players by stats alone.
I dont.

 

[radness]

The book "Playing the Percentages in Baseball" by Tom Tango, Mitchel Lichtman, Andrew Dolphin, Pete Palmer did find that there was clutch hitting in baseball. They say, "Batters perform slightly differently when under pressure. About one in six players increases his inherent on base percentage by eight points or more in high-pressure situations; a comparable number of players decreases it by eight points or more."







My guess is that there is a much bigger "clutch effect" when the total population of players is much less experienced and skilled than MLB ball players.

(MLB players play 150 games a year, and have played professionally for 5 to 10 years. Softball players play 50 games a year for 4 years.)