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Agree with everything you said. Hey I'll add this- maybe its time for the sanctions to work on the wording. When that rule was written many moons ago bats weren't three/four bills!
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The issue with the glue/resin coming loose is that in my experience they don’t rattle all the time. Almost like they find their way back too the place they broke away from or a hollow spot.
My guess is that it’s “extra” resin/glue that made it past QC. I understand your in a tough spot and your not making any friends when you toss bats.
Is the inspection supposed to be just visual? Is actually shaking the bat a requirement?
I agree umps shouldn’t be responsible for checking bats prior to game. However during a game if any equipment fails the umps/coaches are generally going to notice and make sure item damaged is tossed/replaced. Kind of a slippery slope I guess.
Maybe it’s the coaches job to make sure his players equipment is in good working order?
Yes, in particular if you don't hit it perfectly on the barrel..maybe she barrels up every ball??
Yes, in particular if you don't hit it perfectly on the barrel..maybe she barrels up every ball??
As long as she’s not complaining her hands are stinging I guess it’s all good. At that age it seems to be about favorite color/brand and less about performance.
I find it a little curious that the college girls/ladies seem to prefer the 1 pc Carbon over the 2 Piece PC’s & TI bats.
I know I swung my old Easton softball bat 34” 31oz and it felt like a lead pipe and stung like crazy.
I was hitting off the tee with one of my DD’s at a local field playing HR Derby and I’m happy to say all li
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She was going to use the 1 piece Mizuno (31 drop 10) in the spring and the plan was to have her switch to the 32 drop 10 in the Fall but with what is going on I just said the heck with it and have had her work with the 32. Her bat speed/swing isn't effected by using the bigger bat it seems.
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The Advanced is definitely better than all the other Ghosts. More pop, and hopefully more durable.
We were on a larger field on Monday used for HS secondary field and slowpitch league. 260” down the lines and 276” to center.
DD # 1 was one hopping the fence with Adv to LC & C.
Lowest backstop I’ve ever seen. DD # 2 was fouling balls with all bats into the duck pond behind home.
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You ever try any of the SP bats? Now may be a good time!
Glue rattling doesnt mean any glued piece is coming apart. Means an endcap has too big
of a wad put on it and it sits inside the endcap until swung..then it breaks off and thats the pebbling
you hear rattling around. Sometimes it finds a spot to settle as bats have inner tech, and you dont
hear it after that. Sometimes you seem to always hear it...haha. Nothing is wrong or will ever
be wrong with that bat.
The problem is, an altered bat will have sand rattles when the fibers start flaking. BUT, a
perfectly fine bat will have sand rattles as well.
I HATE umps being put in the middle of having to tell parents their kid cant use their bat they
just paid good money to have because a damn gluebie came off or a sand rattle. Always
been a fan of compression. If it fails, boot it. If it doesnt, let it play...plain and simple. Not
this crap of, hey ump, if it rattles or makes any sound, boot it. Oh, wait...the bat clicks when
you violently shake it...haha...toss it.
of a wad put on it and it sits inside the endcap until swung..then it breaks off and thats the pebbling
you hear rattling around. Sometimes it finds a spot to settle as bats have inner tech, and you dont
hear it after that. Sometimes you seem to always hear it...haha. Nothing is wrong or will ever
be wrong with that bat.
The problem is, an altered bat will have sand rattles when the fibers start flaking. BUT, a
perfectly fine bat will have sand rattles as well.
I HATE umps being put in the middle of having to tell parents their kid cant use their bat they
just paid good money to have because a damn gluebie came off or a sand rattle. Always
been a fan of compression. If it fails, boot it. If it doesnt, let it play...plain and simple. Not
this crap of, hey ump, if it rattles or makes any sound, boot it. Oh, wait...the bat clicks when
you violently shake it...haha...toss it.
Wait til that Anarchy gets in her hands
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10-4 ... I thought you were asking me.
When you get an answer, please let my estate know.
I think one thing you say points out the issue (and I'll probably say this in another reply in a moment) ... "a rattle in the handle that is clearly ..."
It isn't clearly anything. None of us can see inside that bat. We can't disassemble it and see what is going on.
If your car engine started making an odd noise, would you be fine with it? If your joints in your body started making an odd noise, would you be fine with it? My point being: it isn't designed to do that, so doing that is considered an indicator of something gone wrong.
Or something like that.
- May 29, 2015
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Precisely. I've tossed bats and then allowed a team to use them the next game. Why? It rattled the first game. It didn't rattle the second game. When I think I hear a rattle, I do a couple of things. First, I do "turn it over". I won't tamp it on the ground (it's not mine, so I'm not smacking it on the ground), but I will turn it end over end. If it doesn't rattle after that, it's good. Second, I have my partner check it. If she or he says "I doesn't hear it", I will listen again. Sometimes it passes, sometimes it doesn't.
Actually, in my experience it is pretty rare for somebody to get mad. I would say 75% of the time I'm not the first one, and it isn't the first time they have heard it. Then again, I will grab the player and the coach and explain the issue so they both know and understand. I'll even gladly talk to the parent to explain (when it is appropriate -- not going to hold up the game for that one).
You can't see a rattle.
The inspection should be physical. Some umpires will actually use a bat ring to check for dents (yes, there is a ring made for checking bats). I lightly run my hand over it for that part, turning it and looking for any cracks in the process.This, this, this! It ABSOLUTELY is the coach's responsibility. In fact, NFHS has made that a point of emphasis.
well a car engine has moving parts...................... and about 1,000 of them versus a bat with zero moving parts and only 2 or 3 pieces so not following your analogy. A bat is such a simple item. I don't understand why a $400 piece of equipment can become illegal just because a little rattle inside of it. Seems like a rule that needs to be revisited.10-4 ... I thought you were asking me.
When you get an answer, please let my estate know.
I think one thing you say points out the issue (and I'll probably say this in another reply in a moment) ... "a rattle in the handle that is clearly ..."
It isn't clearly anything. None of us can see inside that bat. We can't disassemble it and see what is going on.
If your car engine started making an odd noise, would you be fine with it? If your joints in your body started making an odd noise, would you be fine with it? My point being: it isn't designed to do that, so doing that is considered an indicator of something gone wrong.
Or something like that.
As for the joints in my body making odd noises, that is a normal occurrence for me but apparently not for you. I'm envious. What's your secret? lol.....
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