Lookback Rule on steal with no play

GunnerShotgun said:

So you would need to know the score of the game. All runs have a bearing on the outcome of the game (until they don't such as the last inning scenarios).

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Sweet Lou said:

1st and 3rd taking 2nd is defensive indifference?
It may be "stat padding" but unless there is a real softball related score reason to not throw to 2nd, I'm not sure how you don't credit an SB in that situation.

I mean it's not the same kind of cooking as crediting an SB on a PB or WP when the runner wasn't going.

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slagothar said:

Correct; that's why DI is rare. An example of DI:

In the bottom of the seventh inning with no
one out and the winning run on third base, the batter taps the
ball to the pitcher who makes no throw to first base to prevent
the winning run from scoring. RULING—Credit the batter with
a fielder’s choice to gain first base and an additional fielder’s
choice if she gains second base due to indifference.


i.e. only run at third matters; hence defense is indifferent to batter advancing to second, as it has no bearing on the outcome of the game.

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slagothar said:

...I agree that if runner is jogging to second solely to bait a throw, the intent is not to steal, and in this case, I would not award SB

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riseball said:

So if I understand correctly if you jog trying to bait the defense and they concede the base it is not a stolen base. But if you run fast and slide hard and the defense concedes the base it is a stolen base. And all along I thought a stolen base an achievement by the offense not a gift from the defense.

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