HR or Four Base Error

slugger3 · May 25, 2018

Scenario... batter hits a long high ball to left field, the outfielder is clearly inside of the fence by 2-3', she "pushes" her glove upwards to catch the ball, but punches the ball upward and over the fence.
Since the outfielder was clearly inbounds, by 2-3', (and her glove wasn't over the boundary of the fence trying to "rob the batter of a HR" by pulling the ball back in to play), and she knocked the ball up and over the fence, is this an awarded HR, or a 4-base error?

No, neither the batter or outfielder are my DD...but happened in one of our games, and I'm curious

Thanks

slagothar · May 25, 2018

If it was a routine fly ball that the fielder missed - I would rule that an error. If she had to sprint to the ball only to have it knock off her mitt and go over, I would rule HR.

gamommax3 · May 25, 2018

slugger3 said:
Scenario... batter hits a long high ball to left field, the outfielder is clearly inside of the fence by 2-3', she "pushes" her glove upwards to catch the ball, but punches the ball upward and over the fence.
Since the outfielder was clearly inbounds, by 2-3', (and her glove wasn't over the boundary of the fence trying to "rob the batter of a HR" by pulling the ball back in to play), and she knocked the ball up and over the fence, is this an awarded HR, or a 4-base error?

No, neither the batter or outfielder are my DD...but happened in one of our games, and I'm curious

Thanks

This one definitely depends on "effort". If it is a routine ball, just a few steps to get it and she misplays it, then it is an error. But honestly, giving an over the fence HR on an error is very rare. If she made an extraordinary effort (sprinting, laying out, huge jump) to try and catch it and the ball went over, no error. HR all the way.

Top_Notch · May 25, 2018

Home run. Just like in the big leagues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foi-McBulkw

Strike2 · May 25, 2018

IF she was standing back near the fence or only backed up a few steps, stood there, watched the ball come down without significant impact from the wind or sun, and THEN knocked it over the fence, it's an error.

Anything else, it's a HR. One of these happened with DDs team last weekend. The OF was in a full sprint to the fence, stuck her glove up to try to grab the ball, and knocked it over.

canyonjoe · May 25, 2018

Have to see it, but from the description it doesn't sound like she was just standing under it and missed it. If she if running towards the fence to me at least it stops being routine an thus makes it HR.

FP26 · May 25, 2018

Exact scenario happened in a high school game this spring. Scored an error. In this particular case it was definitely routine. She actually tipped it twice before it finally went over the fence...

slugger3 · May 26, 2018

Outfielder ran back and "found the fence", she did not have to jump up to the ball, but rather put her "punched her glove up" to catch the ball, and then the ball hit the palm of her glove and bounced up and over the fence...

From what I'm hearing...it's a 4 base error...

Thanks guys!

MNDad · May 26, 2018

Since she was 2-3 ft from the fence I’d be more inclined to call it a HR. It’s pretty rare for on OF to get that close to the fence without running a significant distance so IMO that takes it beyond ordinary effort.

CoachJD · May 26, 2018

This was ruled a homer: https://www.mlb.com/video/freemans-two-run-homer/c-25774953

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