I have an umpiring mechanics question

hb_hound said:

Can not make a call on a play that was not complete.
IMO, she did the right thing, not making a call (might be wrong, not a trained Ump). As a coach, I'm looking for the no call to let my players know to either return to touch the base or tag the runner.

I would like to know what the call is if the runner returns to the dugout and the pitcher throws to the next batter, I'm thinking the run would count.

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Ajaywill said:

The proper mechanic if the runner misses the base and the fielder misses the tag is to hesitate to see if either player will finish the play, then signal safe. The play is still subject to an appeal up until the point a pitch (legal or illegal) is thrown to the next batter.

Now for an interesting addition.....was the runner in the first base or third base dugout? If she was in the first base dugout, she would have to pass home plate in order to get to her dugout. However, if her team is in the third base dugout, it is likely that she may just get up and head straight to the dugout without passing the plate. Since she stopped short of touching the plate and never passed it, would she be considered to have abandoned her base running responsibility once she stepped into the third base dugout?

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Ajaywill said:

The proper mechanic if the runner misses the base and the fielder misses the tag is to hesitate to see if either player will finish the play, then signal safe. The play is still subject to an appeal up until the point a pitch (legal or illegal) is thrown to the next batter.

Now for an interesting addition.....was the runner in the first base or third base dugout? If she was in the first base dugout, she would have to pass home plate in order to get to her dugout. However, if her team is in the third base dugout, it is likely that she may just get up and head straight to the dugout without passing the plate. Since she stopped short of touching the plate and never passed it, would she be considered to have abandoned her base running responsibility once she stepped into the third base dugout?

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CoachJD said:

I'm glad you brought this up! Reading through the thread, I kept thinking "she didn't 'miss' the base if she stopped short." But I suppose if she got up, walked past home plate and into the first base dugout, that would count as missing the base.

So *when* should the umpire signal safe then? After she makes it to the dugout? After she passes home plate?

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