Earned Runs

nixxy311 said:

Does girl 1 or 2 not count as ER because she only got to scoring position because of the PB?

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nixxy311 said:

Also not related but does CI count as an error? Other team had 1 error listed and that's the only thing I can think of that would have caused it..I never scored one manually..

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Lightning said:

Girl 2's run is unearned because she wasn't in scoring position for the single. (But if there had been a single after girl 5, then girl 2's run would have become an earned run because she would have been in scoring position without the PB.)





Catcher's interference is charged as an error on the catcher.

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Coach Foster said:

Lightning - correct me if I'm wrong. CI is an error on the catcher, but it is not considered an official AB for the hitter, correct?

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YOCOACH said:

Okay....was the passed ball actually a passed ball or was it a wild pitch? if it hit the dirt or was thrown over the catchers head, then it's not a passed ball. In order for it to be considered a passed ball, it must take extra-ordinary effort on the catcher in order to receive it. In other words, if the catcher pretty much misses a catchable ball within reach, without them have to move either vertically or horizontally, without having to attempt to dive, drop to a knee or jump, then its considered a wild pitch by most standards. If it hits the dirt, it's a wild pitch. If it's a wild pitch, it may be considered an ER since it was an error by the pitcher depending upon how the scorekeeper scored it.


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I recommend referring to the NCAA Softball Scoring Rules when looking for further guidance than the ASA Rule Book provides. Section 24 refers to the Earned Run, which are “runs for which the pitcher is statistically accountable” and are charged to the pitcher when a runner scores because of
1) a base on balls
2) a fielder’s choice
3) a hit
4) a batter hit by a pitch
5) an illegal pitch
6) a sacrifice bunt (including a slap and running slap)
7) a sacrifice fly
8) a stolen base
9) a wild pitch (including a third strike wild pitch)

From the NCAA Scoring rules:

PASSED BALL
SECTION 17. A passed ball is a pitch the catcher fails to stop or control when he should have
been able to do so with ordinary effort and on which a runner (other than the batter) is able
to advance. When a passed ball occurs on a third strike, permitting a batter to reach first
base, score a strikeout and a passed ball.

WILD PITCH
SECTION 26. A wild pitch is charged to a pitcher when the pitch is so high, wide or low
that the catcher cannot handle the ball with ordinary effort and at least one runner
advances. Any pitch in the dirt is wild. Only one wild pitch is recorded regardless of the
number of runners who advance or the number of bases advanced. A third strike not handled
by the catcher because it was wild, when the batter reaches first base safely, is scored
as both a wild pitch and a strikeout. No wild pitch is charged if a runner stealing on the
pitch advances only one base. A wild pitch is not an error.

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MNDad said:

The rules regarding Wild Pitches and Passed Balls are different in college and HS and by sanctioning body. NCAA states any pitch in the dirt is wild. NFHS is narrower and only pitches hit the ground in front of home plate are automatically wild. ASA and USSSA don't mention anything about in the dirt, only ordinary effort by the catcher. That may have changed ion recent years though. I haven't looked for a while.

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