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Mar 26, 2013
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Seems like a chicken-egg situation if the ball is moving in fair territory - doesn't contacting the player make it a fair batted ball?

It doesn't have to contact anything to be a fair batted ball. As Comp noted earlier, this rule is meant to protect the batter from direct or immediate contact with a ball off the bat. If that isn't the case and the ball is over/in fair territory and contacts a BR moving to advance to 1B, that is INT whether in the BB or not
A moving ball hasn't settled and it's not past 1B/3B, so how is it a fair batted ball without touching anything?
 

MTR

Jun 22, 2008
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A moving ball hasn't settled and it's not past 1B/3B, so how is it a fair batted ball without touching anything?

Ever see an INT call prior to a fair batted ball touching anything? Ever see a fair batted ball leave the park without touching anything?
 
Mar 26, 2013
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Poor deflections since those are specific cases for fair ball that are irrelevant to the case at hand.
 

MTR

Jun 22, 2008
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Poor deflections since those are specific cases for fair ball that are irrelevant to the case at hand.


I'm not the one who introduced an egg and chicken into the discussion. Are any of my comments not factual?

This isn't a difficult as people want to make it.
 
Mar 26, 2013
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My chicken-egg analogy was simply an observation about a BR not being protected for contacting a fair batted ball when that contact made them a BR.

- Batted ball moving over fair territory becomes a fair batted ball due to contact with player that hit it.
- Fair batted ball triggers batter to become BR.
- BR is not protected when contacting fair batted ball, however they became a BR due to contact being made.
 
Jun 5, 2012
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It doesn't have to contact anything to be a fair batted ball. As Comp noted earlier, this rule is meant to protect the batter from direct or immediate contact with a ball off the bat. If that isn't the case and the ball is over/in fair territory and contacts a BR moving to advance to 1B, that is INT whether in the BB or not

I haven't been able to find a rule or case play in Softball Canada to cover this, I can only find reference to the ball hitting the bat a second time. Does ASA have a case play for this?
I just had it happen in a U18 boys game tonight. RH Batter hit ball into ground a few inches in front of the plate and it bounced straight up, chest high. He took a step towards first and the ball hit his hands (still holding the bat) in front of the plate. The umpire called foul ball because his one foot was still in the batters box. It looked to me like it was clearly a case of the BR running into the ball.
 

MTR

Jun 22, 2008
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I haven't been able to find a rule or case play in Softball Canada to cover this, I can only find reference to the ball hitting the bat a second time. Does ASA have a case play for this?
I just had it happen in a U18 boys game tonight. RH Batter hit ball into ground a few inches in front of the plate and it bounced straight up, chest high. He took a step towards first and the ball hit his hands (still holding the bat) in front of the plate. The umpire called foul ball because his one foot was still in the batters box. It looked to me like it was clearly a case of the BR running into the ball.

USA's interpretation doesn't consider the "one foot in the box" as absolution. In USA ball, the consideration when dealing with inside/outside a demarcation to be the location of the part of the body which the ball contacts.
 

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