Batting out of order- WTF?

Tom said:

Got it thanks, since the batter wasn't appealed the next batter is now up.

What if in the same scenario the batters were not slotted next to each other. For example #1 is due up, #3 hits in her place causing the double play. Defense doesn't appeal since they want the DP, so is the next proper batter #4 causing both #1 & #2 to be skipped?

A weird wrinkle I thought of regarding this too. The NCAA rule posted says "if the error is reported" but doesn't specify by which team. Is it possible for a team to appeal their own error? In this case it would be advantageous for the offensive team to appeal, take the out for batting out of order and put two runners back on base.

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MT 73 said:

Improper batter hits into a double play.
Defense properly appeals the BOO.

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BretMan said:

Second part: Most rule sets will specify that only the defensive team can appeal batting out of order once the next pitch is thrown. I don't know NCAA inside and out like I do, say, USA or NFHS I can't imagine they allow the offense to appeal this...but with NCAA you never know!

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Momo'sDad said:

There's pretty much nothing proper about making this appeal. Unless a run scored, why would the defense take a double play off the books?

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BretMan said:

First part: If the improper batter isn't appealed, then the next batter is whoever follows them in the line up. As you guessed, any interim batter's would just be skipped. They miss their turn at bat and would bat in the normal order next time trough the line up.

Second part: Most rule sets will specify that only the defensive team can appeal batting out of order once the next pitch is thrown. I don't know NCAA inside and out like I do, say, USA or NFHS I can't imagine they allow the offense to appeal this...but with NCAA you never know!

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Tom said:

Thinking about this here's a hypothetical (odds of happening slim I know) but if I understand correctly, is there a possibility that a runner could end up being proper hitter as well?...

No outs, #8 & #9 hitters both have reached safely and are at 2nd and 1st respectively, they are fast and defensive team is up by 1 run. #1 is due up but #3 (slow runner) improperly bats for #1. Hits ground ball to third who gets unassisted force out at 3. D doesn't want to appeal to keep speed off base. #4 should be up, but #2 (who was skipped) improperly bats with same result of unassisted force out at 3. Now #3 hitter is at 2nd base, defense doesn't appeal to keep slow runner in lead position. So now #3 is due up and is also standing on second...what would happen? My guess is there is some solution in the DP/Flex, but what would it be?

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Big Daddy Michigan said:

A player who has reached base and been legitimized by the defense not appealing is skipped if she should be batting while on base. Your scenario is quite convoluted and I'm not sure who the real batter should be. I think #4 is up.

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Comp said:

I understand the coach ignoring the first batting out of order since they got one of the runners with speed off the bases. But, once #2 batted after #3 with same result of out at 3rd, that is when the coach should have brought the batting out of order to the attention of the umpire. Any outs made stand on the batting out of order, and the batter who should have batted is declared out that would make it 3 outs. You dont need to worry about #3 being on base when they are due up. For that matter, if the coach did bring it to the attention of the umpire after the first batting out of order, they would still get the out on the lead runner at 3rd, and the out on the batting out of order and the runner who was at first would be returned to first. So you would have 2 outs and a runner on 1st.

If the coach didnt appeal the batting out of order, the dp/flex option has nothing to do with fixing it. The batter who should be up to bat but is on base is skipped and you go to the next batter in the lineup without penalty to the runner who is on base.

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