Scoring bad hop

As title suggests how do you score this. I understand normal effort and how that can be judged different by some. How do you score these types.
1 funky spin causes ball devation from expected path D was set up and in postion for but darts off.
2 rock or other field surface defect causes obvious "ball jump"
In the above I'm not talking about ball bounces a little higher or scoots instead of bounce under or over the glove. I'm talking about the hops that D is lucky not eat from a rock or something. Or the ones that seem to defy physics with so much spin two hops straight the 90.degree right turn.
Hit or E.

Those are hits. Just like the smoking line drive in the gap that is caught on a dive is an out. The game tends to balance itself out on those type of situation.

Phathead said:

As title suggests how do you score this. I understand normal effort and how that can be judged different by some. How do you score these types.
1 funky spin causes ball devation from expected path D was set up and in postion for but darts off.
2 rock or other field surface defect causes obvious "ball jump"
In the above I'm not talking about ball bounces a little higher or scoots instead of bounce under or over the glove. I'm talking about the hops that D is lucky not eat from a rock or something. Or the ones that seem to defy physics with so much spin two hops straight the 90.degree right turn.
Hit or E.

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Ordinary effort does not mean ''anything that is humanly possible.''

Agree that those should all be scored as hits...unless, of course, the scorekeeper's daughter is the pitcher, then all bets are off.

And for you pitcher's parents out there, I'm kidding. Well, half kidding.

Thanks. I was leaning toward hits but not sure and dang my DD is a pitcher.

They're hits if the fielder didn't have ample time to adjust and field with ordinary effort - that includes a ball unnaturally scooting low instead of bouncing up. Pitchers also get some slack on sharply batted balls.

A base hit is credited to a batter when she advances to a base safely:
14.3.6 On a fair ball that takes an unnatural bounce so that the ball cannot be handled with ordinary effort or that bounces off the pitching plate or any base (including home plate) before being touched by a fielder and at an angle such that it cannot be handled with ordinary effort.

No error is charged to a fielder in the following situations:
14.22.7 When a ball is hit with such force, so slowly or with erratic spin that it would require more than ordinary effort to play the ball.
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14.22.14 When a pitcher mishandles a sharply batted ball. Wild throws and the mishandling of routine ground balls and bunts are reason for charging the pitcher with an error.

Phathead said:

Thanks. I was leaning toward hits but not sure and dang my DD is a pitcher.

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I feel your pain. Score keepers with pitching kids get a bad rep but I try my best to make sure I'm not doing it in any way that favors her. If I think something is an error I always ask myself, if another girl were pitching and my DD were the fielder, would it still feel like an error? Usually a bad hop I score a hit, just depending on how it goes down. If they had plenty of time to adjust and just didn't, it might be an error. But normally it's just bad luck and has to be considered a hit IMO.

ETA: the more painful ones to me are the ones where a change up produces an easy pop fly, nobody calls it, and it drops in 1' away from 3 different fielders.

grcsftbll said:

ETA: the more painful ones to me are the ones where a change up produces an easy pop fly, nobody calls it, and it drops in 1' away from 3 different fielders.

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I've always hated not being able to "officially" charge brain farts with an E. I fully understand why you cant. It just hurts sometimes when a team has "one of those games" and a the pitchers era and whip go up. But I do belive over the season it avg out when D vacuums up everything that the pitcher leaves fat and takes away base hit's with exceptional plays.

DD pitched 90% of her MS games. HC was over using her and told her she could have day off.

He went out to talk to pitcher, why is he talking to her she is the only one that showed up to this game.