Does the riseball really rise???

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Cannonball

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Feb 25, 2009
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Gosh I'm going to get sucked into this. If Sarah Pauly's riseball didn't rise from it's original trajectory then I'm going to bet my paycheck that no one's riseball rises from that original trajectory. Ssarge and Rick filmed it. Marked it. Studied it. Discussed it. PLEASE someone grab me now and get me away from this topic. PLEAAAAAAAAASE!
 
Gosh I'm going to get sucked into this. If Sarah Pauly's riseball didn't rise from it's original trajectory then I'm going to bet my paycheck that no one's riseball rises from that original trajectory. Ssarge and Rick filmed it. Marked it. Studied it. Discussed it. PLEASE someone grab me now and get me away from this topic. PLEAAAAAAAAASE!

CB
Every fiber in my body said "don't get involved in this discussion"...........I gotta start listening to my inner self.
How about you and I sitting on the sidelines of this one and keep score.....:cool:
 
Jul 17, 2012
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Please explain then how a guy can throw a ball downhill maybe waist high and a ball reaches at least head high? Granted these were men with 90+ MPH type arms.
 

Greenmonsters

Wannabe Duck Boat Owner
Feb 21, 2009
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IME it never ends well when using science to debate alternative facts. However, I do not have the self discipline to not note that the issue is cut and dried when using the accepted scientific definition of rise.
 

Cannonball

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Feb 25, 2009
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CB
Every fiber in my body said "don't get involved in this discussion"...........I gotta start listening to my inner self.
How about you and I sitting on the sidelines of this one and keep score.....:cool:

Rick that is great advice. BTW, I see Sarah played for Coach Levin. He coached my daughter. My daughter thinks of him like a second dad. The wife and I know we were blessed in having BB play for him.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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The the air is thinner in the mountains. Objects, such as balls and human beings, travel farther because of less air resistance.

Because the air is thinner, there is less movement on all pitches.

If a batter hits a drop ball, it is usually either a line drive or a ground ball. If a batter riseball, they are usually fly balls. At high altitudes, more of the flyballs will find their way out of the stadium.

Which is why I never took Jake to Colorado for a showcase! It is a hitters paradise. The air is thin and dry so not only does the ball travel further, movement pitches are not as effective. When she played in the NJCAA Championship in Utah we adjusted her grip and release for an hour or so before we started seeing acceptable movement and that was only 3,000ft. If you are a golfer try some the mountain courses where a 300+ yard drive is common. :)
 
Jun 11, 2018
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The backspin would have to create a pressure that exceedes the weight of the ball. Not. At best it is an angled fastball that doesn't drop as quickly.
 

marriard

Not lost - just no idea where I am
Oct 2, 2011
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What is your opinion? Any data or example to support?
It loses rise rate slower than a straight ball. But it cannot add additional rise rate. Any ball can still be going up when it passes the batter, but it is all about how much the rise rate has reduced between release and end of the pitch.

Support: All the Laws of Physics and slow-motion side on video.
 

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