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Seminole said:

Coach James...really good YouTube videos you linked. Gonna show my daughter today before we go out. What I’ve been telling her with brush is to feel her elbow brush or make contact with her hip...should I word it differently?

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Those are a couple of my students in those clips... Pay attention to the release of the ball. Notice how the kinetic energy is being passed into the ball, rather than trying to force the ball out of their hands? This happens because of what we call the brush trigger. The upper/inner forearm must contact the thigh. It's this contact that'll decelerate the forearm to pass the energy into the hand/ball.
However, in my previous post I talked about stopping her hips and torso from over-rotating. If she continues to over-rotate, the kinetic chain becomes very inefficient, because she is now out of position to actually receive that brushing trigger.
This is quite literally a chain reaction. If one link breaks, the rest of the chain becomes useless

Your DD is having trouble with glove swim. Glove swim is where the pitcher throws the glove hand violently to the left, causing her upper body to twist.

(You need to do a video behind her as well. In the future, it is much better to post side and back videos.)

Attached is a comparison of your DD with Amanda Scarborough at 7.

Your DD's body position looks pretty good at 7...but where is her glove? It is gone!!!

Look where the glove is after release. Your DD is hitting the *OUTSIDE* of her left hip with the glove during the release phase.

She needs keep the glove pointed (generally) toward the target longer, and then she needs to bring the glove down so that it touches the *INSIDE* of her left thigh.

Here is a good video explaining the part of the pitching motion your DD is struggling with. Appearance aside, the guy in the video is a primo pitcing guru.

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Here is an additional video by Rick Pauly, another superb pitching guru, explaining proper motion of the glove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kYv0mhNAek

Sluggers, I see the difference. Ken B wanted a video of behind her as well. I’m gonna get wife to record a few pitches from behind her today. Should I include some normal speed pitches too? I know I can’t attack everything in one practice so today, we’re really focus on that glove hand to the target and finishing inside her left thigh. If she does it better as Coach James was saying, it should help with the brush and hopefully find a better trigger for release since it will force her shoulders and in turn, her torso from continuing to rotate...am I understanding this right?

Sluggers - thx again! That Rick Pauly video about "Glove Whirl" vs straight arm towards the catcher was enlightening and helpful. Seems like we've gotten mixed messages on that particular point along the way. Recently I've been guilty of trying to get DD to use that glove arm as a rifle scope almost where she's looking down the arm towards her target as she explodes off the rubber towards the catcher into her "power position". I will eat some crow with her tonight and review this video together...she has a pretty natural "whirl" with strong adduction.

Java - you've seen my kid...any thoughts, comments or helpful hints on this particular issue?

Sorry for the hijack!!

Seminole said:

Sluggers, I see the difference. Ken B wanted a video of behind her as well. I’m gonna get wife to record a few pitches from behind her today. Should I include some normal speed pitches too? I know I can’t attack everything in one practice so today, we’re really focus on that glove hand to the target and finishing inside her left thigh. If she does it better as Coach James was saying, it should help with the brush and hopefully find a better trigger for release since it will force her shoulders and in turn, her torso from continuing to rotate...am I understanding this right?

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As I'm sure you know, the glove thing might take weeks/months to get right. Many of our daughters were never told what to do with the glove hand so they have thousands of pitches of muscle memory with swimming. Really, really hard to break. However, if you make that a key (or only) thought in a practice session, they can do it correctly.

Seminole, nearly every pitcher swims a little bit when they throw the ball. In a perfect world, we wouldn't swim at all but, it happens. Sure, in a video I could keep my glove on top of my leg and not swim at all. But, if I was throwing live in a game, using all my power, my glove does not stay on top of my leg.. although I wish it did. IMHO, the trick is to limit how far it swims. Control the glove hand, don't let the glove hand control you. One of the main problems with swimming is it opens the shoulders prematurely. Take a sticker or a piece of tape and put it on her pitching shoulder, now have her pitch into a mirror (throwing socks or just air pitch with nothing in the hand). Have her try to hide the sticker from herself in the mirror so she hides the back shoulder from the target as long as possible. Catchers should see 1 arm, 1 leg and 1 hip... if the catcher can see 2 of anything, there's an issue or going to be an issue.

Bill

Bill, I’ll definitely try that. Thanks so much for the suggestions guys. I’ll have a video filmed from behind her up tonight.

Ok..I finally finished the videos of our practice today. I edited the slow motion video to take out me throwing the ball back to her to save some viewing time. I’m also going to link two at normal speed before the slo-mo kicked in. The first 4 pitches in the slo-mo is from the angle that Ken B. wanted and Sluggers wanted to see. Also, Coach James, we watched the videos of your girls pitching multiple times and really focused on the 9:00/show it drills, but she’s still closing too early because I filmed those from behind the net to look at between drills. We were both frustrated at the beginning of practice..her for not being able to get it and me for not being able to teach it the right way....but after that both of us threw away the negativity and just had fun while my wife filmed it. Also, I’m the extremely large football coach sitting on a bucket trying my best to learn and help my baby girl get better!!

2 at normal speed: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pFGiP3lbmOA&feature=youtu.be

8 at slow motion: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q5U0LACLyLA&feature=youtu.be

I don't see the glove swim as the problem. If the shoulder is pointed in more (torso keeps still) and you can have the same pattern movement with the glove as you have now. You can keep the glove in but that doesn't mean it will fix the shoulder/torso movement. In teaching I found the girls can feel/fix the shoulder more so than the glove as well.