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Sep 23, 2018
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Greetings. I've followed this forum for years but never posted. My daughter is a 12 yr old pitcher and the information on this site has been invaluable. Thank you all.

My daughter has never been known for her velocity, but she does locate the ball pretty well and has some nice movement on most of her pitches. I have been anxiously awaiting the release of the Revfire 2 and we got ours on Friday. After 2 days of constant rain we were able to take it out this afternoon and give it a try. I'd say it registered a reading about 95% of the time, so no issues with that. I feel the speed is a little off. I stepped off 40ft + 3 for the catcher but it still seemed to be a little fast. I would be surprised if my daughter broke 52 on any pitch and it was consistently clocking her at 54-55. But we didn't get the Revfire to measure velocity, it's all about the spin. As shaker1 mentioned in the other Revfire post, it would be great to see what kind of numbers people are getting, so here we go...


Age: 12
Fastball: 24.0 RPS - 54mph (I didn't have my pocket radar, but I'd bet it was closer to 51-52)
Dropball: 22.2 RPS - 55mph
Riseball: 22.5 RPS - 54 mph
Changeup: 14.0 RPS - 39 mph
Curveball: 21.3 RPS - 54 mph
Screwball: 23.3 RPS - 54 mph

Please post your numbers. Thanks.
 

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JohnnyO

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curious how you got it set to 40' plus the 3' for catcher. my early beta version is 43' +3', I didn't buy a new one, that could be your speed differences and reason for high revs
 
Nov 25, 2012
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JohnnyO- you can change the distance in the settings. For softball there is 35, 40, 43, and 46.

Still waiting for the rain to stop so we can use ours.
 

JohnnyO

Began this habit in 1980
May 13, 2015
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hey wow, I've had this for two months and didn't realize if I touched the 43 I could change it. thanks !!!!
 
Dec 5, 2012
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hey wow, I've had this for two months and didn't realize if I touched the 43 I could change it. thanks !!!!

LOL
Babies don't realize they have a nose either... until they sneeze!!!! lol

MY RV2 arrived Friday. Going to use it on some students tonight!!! looking forward to it... 5 years in the making comes true tonight
 

sluggers

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Greetings. I've followed this forum for years but never posted. My daughter is a 12 yr old pitcher and the information on this site has been invaluable. Thank you all.


Age: 12
Fastball: 24.0 RPS - 54mph (I didn't have my pocket radar, but I'd bet it was closer to 51-52)
Dropball: 22.2 RPS - 55mph
Riseball: 22.5 RPS - 54 mph
Changeup: 14.0 RPS - 39 mph
Curveball: 21.3 RPS - 54 mph
Screwball: 23.3 RPS - 54 mph
.

With due respect, your Dd does not throw a drop, a rise, curve and a screw. I doubt she even throws a riseball.

All of the pitches are the same speed and have the same RPS. It is possibile that the axis of rotation are different, but I'll bet $5.00 that they all rotate in the same direction.

I've posted this many times in the past, and I'll keep saying it:

Pick *ONE* breaking pitch, either a riseball or a dropball, and perfect that pitch.

She is wasting time trying to learn all those pitches.

My poor DD#1, a D1 all-conference, pitcher has a drop and a fastball.

The only pitcher that I've seen with several pitches is Cat Osterman...and I doubt at 12YOA, your DD is Cat Osterman.
 
Sep 23, 2018
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With due respect, your Dd does not throw a drop, a rise, curve and a screw. I doubt she even throws a riseball.

All of the pitches are the same speed and have the same RPS. It is possibile that the axis of rotation are different, but I'll bet $5.00 that they all rotate in the same direction.

I've posted this many times in the past, and I'll keep saying it:

Pick *ONE* breaking pitch, either a riseball or a dropball, and perfect that pitch.

She is wasting time trying to learn all those pitches.

My poor DD#1, a D1 all-conference, pitcher has a drop and a fastball.

The only pitcher that I've seen with several pitches is Cat Osterman...and I doubt at 12YOA, your DD is Cat Osterman.

There it is! The reason I don't post on message boards. Thank you for your respectful input.

She's pretty much curveball/changeup in games and working on a riseball. I doubt she'll ever throw a 12/6 dropball, but since she's not starting college or even high school tomorrow, does it really hurt her to work on it for a few minutes a week? Perhaps it will severely stunt her growth and we'll look back at this moment and wonder why we didn't do things differently.

This is a thread for the RevFire 2, a device that measures spin. We were playing around with different pitches. If she was going to a tryout or college camp, she'd probably throw a fastball/curveball/changeup. We're well aware that she won't be throwing 6 pitches in college. But I'll be sure to let her know that sluggers said she wasn't Cat Osterman.
 

shaker1

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This is a thread for the RevFire 2, a device that measures spin. We were playing around with different pitches. If she was going to a tryout or college camp, she'd probably throw a fastball/curveball/changeup. We're well aware that she won't be throwing 6 pitches in college. But I'll be sure to let her know that sluggers said she wasn't Cat Osterman.
Thanks for the numbers, hopefully others will post theirs. As you guys work on things, post again. Interesting stuff.
 
Sep 23, 2018
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Thanks for the numbers, hopefully others will post theirs. As you guys work on things, post again. Interesting stuff.

We'll see. I did sit her down tonight and let her know that the internet said she wasn't Cat Osterman. I was prepared for the total shock and devastation that would surely come as I broke the news to her. Imagine my surprise when she replied, "Ok....Who's Cat Osterman again?" Kids these days. What are you going to do??
 
I actually did some beta testing on the new RevFire 2 ball for Dave. I did comparison to an original RevFire relative to both spin and speed. The spins appeared to be very similar between old and new. I assume that their spin rate is reasonably accurate since they align fairly closely with the Rapsodo device. I compared the RevFire 2 speeds to my Stalker Radar set up......and I did have a very accurate 43 foot rubber to home plate distance. The RevFire 2 was within 1--1.5 mph of the Stalker Radar. However, I will throw this out.....the RevFire 2 (or original RevFire) are very dependent on distance for their speed accuracy. A catcher who sets up deeper or shorter will affect the speed reading......a catcher who reaches forward or lets the ball travel deep will affect the speed reading.
What I've always felt is that relative to using the RevFire for speed....it is pretty good at showing the difference in speed for example between a fastball and a change up.....for this it is good.
Contrary to some other info I had read.....the RevFire 2 is not dependent on the distance to determine accurate spin rates.
The new RevFire 2 will not measure self spins like the original one did.....it does require a certain minimum distance thrown for it to measure spin rate.
Overall this is a must have product....especially for the price.
Now RevFire just needs to get that chip installed that also reads spin axis........that will put several companies out of business.
 

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