Revfire2 stats

sbpitcher19 said:

There it is! The reason I don't post on message boards. Thank you for your respectful input.

She's pretty much curveball/changeup in games and working on a riseball. I doubt she'll ever throw a 12/6 dropball, but since she's not starting college or even high school tomorrow, does it really hurt her to work on it for a few minutes a week? Perhaps it will severely stunt her growth and we'll look back at this moment and wonder why we didn't do things differently.

This is a thread for the RevFire 2, a device that measures spin. We were playing around with different pitches. If she was going to a tryout or college camp, she'd probably throw a fastball/curveball/changeup. We're well aware that she won't be throwing 6 pitches in college. But I'll be sure to let her know that sluggers said she wasn't Cat Osterman.

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Rick Pauly said:

I actually did some beta testing on the new RevFire 2 ball for Dave. I did comparison to an original RevFire relative to both spin and speed. The spins appeared to be very similar between old and new. I assume that their spin rate is reasonably accurate since they align fairly closely with the Rapsodo device. I compared the RevFire 2 speeds to my Stalker Radar set up......and I did have a very accurate 43 foot rubber to home plate distance. The RevFire 2 was within 1--1.5 mph of the Stalker Radar. However, I will throw this out.....the RevFire 2 (or original RevFire) are very dependent on distance for their speed accuracy. A catcher who sets up deeper or shorter will affect the speed reading......a catcher who reaches forward or lets the ball travel deep will affect the speed reading.
What I've always felt is that relative to using the RevFire for speed....it is pretty good at showing the difference in speed for example between a fastball and a change up.....for this it is good.
Contrary to some other info I had read.....the RevFire 2 is not dependent on the distance to determine accurate spin rates.
The new RevFire 2 will not measure self spins like the original one did.....it does require a certain minimum distance thrown for it to measure spin rate.
Overall this is a must have product....especially for the price.
Now RevFire just needs to get that chip installed that also reads spin axis........that will put several companies out of business.

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Rick Pauly said:

I actually did some beta testing on the new RevFire 2 ball for Dave. I did comparison to an original RevFire relative to both spin and speed. The spins appeared to be very similar between old and new. I assume that their spin rate is reasonably accurate since they align fairly closely with the Rapsodo device. I compared the RevFire 2 speeds to my Stalker Radar set up......and I did have a very accurate 43 foot rubber to home plate distance. The RevFire 2 was within 1--1.5 mph of the Stalker Radar. However, I will throw this out.....the RevFire 2 (or original RevFire) are very dependent on distance for their speed accuracy. A catcher who sets up deeper or shorter will affect the speed reading......a catcher who reaches forward or lets the ball travel deep will affect the speed reading.
What I've always felt is that relative to using the RevFire for speed....it is pretty good at showing the difference in speed for example between a fastball and a change up.....for this it is good.
Contrary to some other info I had read.....the RevFire 2 is not dependent on the distance to determine accurate spin rates.
The new RevFire 2 will not measure self spins like the original one did.....it does require a certain minimum distance thrown for it to measure spin rate.
Overall this is a must have product....especially for the price.
Now RevFire just needs to get that chip installed that also reads spin axis........that will put several companies out of business.

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sbpitcher19 said:

There it is! The reason I don't post on message boards. Thank you for your respectful input.

She's pretty much curveball/changeup in games and working on a riseball. I doubt she'll ever throw a 12/6 dropball, but since she's not starting college or even high school tomorrow, does it really hurt her to work on it for a few minutes a week? Perhaps it will severely stunt her growth and we'll look back at this moment and wonder why we didn't do things differently.

This is a thread for the RevFire 2, a device that measures spin. We were playing around with different pitches. If she was going to a tryout or college camp, she'd probably throw a fastball/curveball/changeup. We're well aware that she won't be throwing 6 pitches in college. But I'll be sure to let her know that sluggers said she wasn't Cat Osterman.

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MNDad said:

I’m sure you’ve seen plenty of pitchers parents who actually believe their DD’s have 10 different pitches. Nobody would discourage a girl from playing around with different spins to see what works. However if she’s just trying a pitch a few times a week the speed and spin rates shouldn’t be listed. Including them it gives impression she’s throwing the pitch and that skews the figures for girls who are actually have a drop, screw or rise.

I can’t speak for sluggers, but the general rule is getting really good at one or two different pitches will provide better results than trying to work on four at the same time. I’d also add that 51-52 is great for a 12 yo. It’s the same place DD was at her age so yours is on a pretty good pace. Good luck to her and thanks for sharing Rev Fire data.

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sbpitcher19 said:

Ok so let's say this:

Fastball: 22 - 24 (assume everything not a curveball or changeup is a fastball)
Curveball:20-22
Changeup: ~14 (don't really remember the range, it would be nice if the app recorded a history of pitches)

What is that telling me? Good? Bad? Average? My hope is we can have a discussion on 1) What are others getting? Does this device actually work? and 2) How do I use this information?

Thank you to Rick Pauly and coachjames for the information so far.

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Fastpitch_Dad said:

Attempts to differentiate her FB and DB spin rate has not been effective yet. So it is all about location and increasing overall rps and worry about the name of it later.
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