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    The head coach of our team and myself have started to work with a couple of the girls on the team in regards to IR. All 4 were taught HE, clear the hips, etc.
    Obviously there are a lot of challenges but this place has offered a ton of help and just showing the girls many of the videos from here has made a world of difference, so we thank you.

    One thing we consistently see with all the girls is a timing issue.
    All four tend to have foot plant when their arm is past 9 o'clock. I would say anywhere from 8-7. Usually this ends up with the release of the ball being way past their hip eliminating any chance for brush.
    Any ideas or drills to get the foot plant closer to 12-11 o'clock like we are seeing from most of the high end pitcher videos?

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    Foot plant varies, 11ish to 9ish depending on the pitcher.

    As i read your post, I vision kids, like most who are just starting, butts out pushing the ball, lots of throws over the catchers heads. I would break it down with a drill like Rick Paulys TTL drill, where you can work with them on posture, leading with the elbow, getting brush, even if it's upper arm only, if the brush is there, you'll see the release somewhere around the bellybutton, no push.

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    I'm doing a conversion now. We started with the bottom half and then moved on to the top half. We are now focusing on stopping the push and doing the pull because, imo, that's the key to eradicating HE habits. If you don't have video capability, get some. I use Coach's Eye but I'm sure there are others available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shaker1 View Post
    Foot plant varies, 11ish to 9ish depending on the pitcher.

    As i read your post, I vision kids, like most who are just starting, butts out pushing the ball, lots of throws over the catchers heads. I would break it down with a drill like Rick Paulys TTL drill, where you can work with them on posture, leading with the elbow, getting brush, even if it's upper arm only, if the brush is there, you'll see the release somewhere around the bellybutton, no push.
    Those are exactly what we are exactly the things we are seeing. We are also seeing two of them really want to rotate their hand over the top at release for some reason. What does TTL stand for?

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    I'm new but really eager to learn. Looks like this topic has moved elsewhere but my daughter who is 9 I'm assuming that is what DD stands for from what I've seen so far is being taught to clear the hips, rotate the ball at the top, snap the wrist...etc. is that HE? Just trying to learn everything I can.

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    Watch these videos, he's one of the best

    https://youtu.be/ijHqW1ZpcV8

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    I would argue the optimal time for landing to occur is dependent on the pitcher's level of fitness, particularly core strength. Why? Well, as I see it, pitchers who are weaker in the core need to land earlier than those who are stronger...because it will take them longer to stop the rotational forces that result from landing. While we see some elite pitchers getting there landing closer to 9:00 than 11:00, that doesn't necessarily mean younger (weaker) pitchers should work on getting their landing close to 9:00.

    I don't think there is an absolute for the timing of the landing, rather a range. And, where the pitcher's optimal landing is in that range depends on her ability to get the rotational foces of landing stopped just prior to release.

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    I think some of it depends on sequence as well. BTW, I say 9:55 is optimum
    Some of my favorite pitching sites, threads and videos: https://www.discussfastpitch.com/sof...tml#post449172 and https://fastpitchfoundations.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken B View Post
    I think some of it depends on sequence as well. BTW, I say 9:55 is optimum
    9:55 sounds good to me.


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