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    I think another problem in softball is that a lot of coaches ride the #1 pitcher way too much. Ive seen teams were team has 3-4 pitchers. But the #1 pitcher gets 75% of the innings. The other girls get discouraged and give up, and the #1 pitcher gets overwork and is susceptible to injuries and burn out. The pitch counts in baseball gives multiple pitchers more opportunities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Softball scholar View Post
    I think another problem in softball is that a lot of coaches ride the #1 pitcher way too much. Ive seen teams were team has 3-4 pitchers. But the #1 pitcher gets 75% of the innings. The other girls get discouraged and give up, and the #1 pitcher gets overwork and is susceptible to injuries and burn out. The pitch counts in baseball gives multiple pitchers more opportunities.
    I've noticed this too. They're usually those teams who have the one ace, and only ever win when that one is pitching. Their defense sucks because they get by on pitching 75% of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Softball scholar View Post
    I think another problem in softball is that a lot of coaches ride the #1 pitcher way too much. Ive seen teams were team has 3-4 pitchers. But the #1 pitcher gets 75% of the innings. The other girls get discouraged and give up, and the #1 pitcher gets overwork and is susceptible to injuries and burn out. The pitch counts in baseball gives multiple pitchers more opportunities.

    This is a huge problem for rec teams here, particularly when it comes to Daddyball. They let coaches give 99% of the innings to their DD’s and after they leave the program wonders why they don’t have any pitching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Westwind View Post
    3. Bats are hot. I am getting old and I can probably fungo with one hand with the modern bats. You see 12 and 13 year olds hitting balls over 200 feet now. That wasn't happening ten years ago.
    I think this is probably true, but from what I observed:
    a kid that can muster a "pop-fly HR" usually hits a greater % of "no doubters" that she properly barrels-up.
    meaning: you still have to have a powerful swing with reasonably good mechanics to hit one out.

    I don't see many "bad" hitters go yard more than once, or maybe twice, a season because of a "hot bat".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MNDad View Post
    This is a huge problem for rec teams here, particularly when it comes to Daddyball. They let coaches give 99% of the innings to their DD’s and after they leave the program wonders why they don’t have any pitching.
    Makes sense. At least here, the rec program is all volunteer parent coaches. Their quality varies immensely, that's for sure.
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    So stupid question time and stupid meaning I know the answer but Im trying to grasp the why portion of it

    I know in baseball we've always taught everyone to pitch. Even the kids who will probably not step foot on a mound knows how to pitch "Just in case"

    Me - (being a know nothing) sees my daughters athleticism and figures in softball its probably best served playing a position however I see her walking around pretending to pitch and shes starting to ask about it so Im figuring "what the hell"

    My question is - is this something I should even bother pursuing? I understand pitching is always in need but from the sounds of it (and some of what I've had to deal in my hometown) Id be setting my self up for double the headache especially if my kids wants to pitch and play a position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome Sauce Malone View Post
    So stupid question time and stupid meaning I know the answer but Im trying to grasp the why portion of it

    I know in baseball we've always taught everyone to pitch. Even the kids who will probably not step foot on a mound knows how to pitch "Just in case"

    Me - (being a know nothing) sees my daughters athleticism and figures in softball its probably best served playing a position however I see her walking around pretending to pitch and shes starting to ask about it so Im figuring "what the hell"

    My question is - is this something I should even bother pursuing? I understand pitching is always in need but from the sounds of it (and some of what I've had to deal in my hometown) Id be setting my self up for double the headache especially if my kids wants to pitch and play a position.
    I think allowing any kid who wants to pitch is a great idea. As they get older 12U and above it becomes increasingly difficult to compete at the higher levels without intense focus and work on pitching. DD practices 4-5 times per week for 10 months of the year. Had I know when she was 10 that the commitment was that great I probably would have steered her in a different direction. That said she loves it and I am happy for her. Just need to make sure that as your DD begins that it could lead to a larger commitment.
    A change up should be kept low so that if the hitter does time it, they have to make the secondary adjustment of going down to hit the ball also. 2 movements in the hitter doubles their chance of a bad swing. The combo of being able to read the pitcher's change up early and doing a backflip to keep it up in the zone is a deadly combo. - Bill Hillhouse

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT3100 View Post
    I think allowing any kid who wants to pitch is a great idea. As they get older 12U and above it becomes increasingly difficult to compete at the higher levels without intense focus and work on pitching. DD practices 4-5 times per week for 10 months of the year. Had I know when she was 10 that the commitment was that great I probably would have steered her in a different direction. That said she loves it and I am happy for her. Just need to make sure that as your DD begins that it could lead to a larger commitment.
    I have the same thoughts as in if she wants to why not. hell it could turn out to be her thing you know. As it stands now she does not have that kind of time commitment. Id say we could get a good 2 days in with a possible 3rd. But at the same time shes never pitched before so she would just be learning. But the one thing she always asks me is if she can pitch to me so if there is the interest might as well ahve her learn something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome Sauce Malone View Post
    I have the same thoughts as in if she wants to why not. hell it could turn out to be her thing you know. As it stands now she does not have that kind of time commitment. Id say we could get a good 2 days in with a possible 3rd. But at the same time shes never pitched before so she would just be learning. But the one thing she always asks me is if she can pitch to me so if there is the interest might as well ahve her learn something.
    I used the strategy of whispering horrible things about pitching in my DD's ear when she was she was sleeping as a toddler and it seems to have worked since she has a strong distaste for pitchers and pitching which is good for a position player....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome Sauce Malone View Post
    I have the same thoughts as in if she wants to why not. hell it could turn out to be her thing you know. As it stands now she does not have that kind of time commitment. Id say we could get a good 2 days in with a possible 3rd. But at the same time shes never pitched before so she would just be learning. But the one thing she always asks me is if she can pitch to me so if there is the interest might as well ahve her learn something.

    Go for it!!

    A very wise person (college coach as well) told me our first year of pitching that the successful kids have these qualities:
    1) Desire to pitch
    2) Some athleticism
    3) Involved parent
    4) Parent with lots of time and/or money



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