Success with Barnhill “style”
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2br02b
Trabant swing
- Jul 25, 2017
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We got called for not presenting 2x in a game, and then in a subsequent game we faced a pitcher who was putting her hands together, rocking back and bringing both hands (still together) to just behind her right hip, separating her hands and moving both arms forward and bringing them together again in her glove above her head, repeating the hands together rock backward motion to her right side and then finally starting the windmill pitch. The umpire could not honestly tell us if it was legal or not and just let her do it. After the game, a parent from the other team came over to one of our coaches and said that the home plate umpire was talking to the base umpire in between innings and said that we needed to worry less about the rules and just play the game...
2br02b
Trabant swing
- Jul 25, 2017
- 303
- 43
For us - "presented" is a misnomer - it is actually a pause with the hands together. Softball Canada rules. The umps were telling our pitcher that she had to step on the rubber, put her hands together and take the sign then. They are really just looking for a pause of 2-3 seconds.
We only play a few tournaments in Canada, and mostly play in the USA. Never had a problem in a US tournament with the pause. In fact, two weeks ago, we played a team that would stand in the box and look at their gloves and adjust their helmets and our pitcher would throw. When the other coach complained, the umpire said that if the players weren't ready they needed to keep one foot out of the box or put a hand up...
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Funny enough in the same game the HP ump called a strike on a batter for taking too long to get in the box. He said it quietly and nobody noticed the count had changed to 2 strikes and the next pitch was a called 3rd strike. It was the opposing team so we took it but nobody had noticed the delay (no complaint from anyone to prompt it) or the called strike on the batter.
The replant seemed to be more of a distraction for this pitcher as she always seemed to jump differently and struggled to locate. On this day our batters were not helping themselves.
I felt like coming unglued but figured the obnoxious route would not go well and heckling a teenager trying to pitch isn’t a good idea. It is the blatant cheating part that is frustrating; at least hide it better!!
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The replant seemed to be more of a distraction for this pitcher as she always seemed to jump differently and struggled to locate. On this day our batters were not helping themselves.
I felt like coming unglued but figured the obnoxious route would not go well and heckling a teenager trying to pitch isn’t a good idea. It is the blatant cheating part that is frustrating; at least hide it better!!
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D**n you and your Vulcan logic, riseball.
2br02b
Trabant swing
- Jul 25, 2017
- 303
- 43
This cannot be emphasized enough...
Every time we come across a pitcher with an offbeat delivery or pre-windmill "style add-on" it takes almost 2x through our rotation to get the timing down - regardless of how "good" the pitcher is. Whether it is the pitcher that goes so low she could sniff the ground or the ones that seem to try to touch their pony tail to the ground behind them, those added movements give an advantage that have nothing to do with pitching mechanics.
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Wait, isn't that the pitcher's job to throw off the timing of the batters? How is that an "advantage"?
2br02b
Trabant swing
- Jul 25, 2017
- 303
- 43
I think you misunderstood my meaning. The quirky pitcher's ability to throw off the batters timing is an advantage that a non-quirky pitcher may not enjoy. Each pitcher's skill in regards to mechanics notwithstanding.
