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May 24, 2013
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Well I will have to say that I am impressed that a REC league all-star pitcher has a pitching coach! What age group? Is your DD ready to transition into TB?

My experience with rec all-stars - 8U and 10U - was that pretty much all the pitchers were working with private instructors. Yes, 8U. Seriously. My experience has also been that this is fairly typical for our area.
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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My experience with rec all-stars - 8U and 10U - was that pretty much all the pitchers were working with private instructors. Yes, 8U. Seriously. My experience has also been that this is fairly typical for our area.

In our area most players who took softball seriously enough to have a PC were playing some level of TB, now it may have been C-level TB, but it was still considered TB because our REC leagues were usually contained in one park.
 
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In Southern California my understanding is 2nd half of the 8u rec season there is only coach pitch when there is a walk and bases are loaded. Players pitch the rest of the time. For 8u All-Star tournaments, there is no coach pitch. So where Eric and Lightning are from its kind of necessary for many of the pitchers to have pitching coaches.

Looking at the Southern California USA Softball website, it looks like they even have 6u All Stars.
 
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In Southern California my understanding is 2nd half of the 8u rec season there is only coach pitch when there is a walk and bases are loaded. Players pitch the rest of the time. For 8u All-Star tournaments, there is no coach pitch. So where Eric and Lightning are from its kind of necessary for many of the pitchers to have pitching coaches.

Looking at the Southern California USA Softball website, it looks like they even have 6u All Stars.
In DD's league 8u is all kid pitch in the second half of the season, even of they walk in runs.

6u all-stars is definitely a thing around here, too. There's a 6u division in every tournament DD plays.

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May 24, 2013
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In DD's league 8u is all kid pitch in the second half of the season, even of they walk in runs.

6u all-stars is definitely a thing around here, too. There's a 6u division in every tournament DD plays.

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Like yours, our rec league had all kid-pitch in the second half of the 8U season. We did hybrid kid-coach pitch in the first half (kid-pitch to ball 4, then coach pitches the remaining strikes left in the count, amount of runners on base doesn't matter).

When my DD was in rec ball, we had 6U teams, but no all-stars, and I don't recall any 6U all-star teams in the tournaments we played. Maybe things have changed in the last 3 years.
 
May 24, 2013
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In our area most players who took softball seriously enough to have a PC were playing some level of TB, now it may have been C-level TB, but it was still considered TB because our REC leagues were usually contained in one park.

The structure is different in So Cal. Almost all of the rec leagues are under the ASA/USA umbrella, and are either "B" or "C". The difference in classification is related to the historical strength of the all-star program. "B" leagues tend to be larger programs with 500+ players in the league, but there are also a few smaller leagues that regularly field solid all-star teams. All TB - no matter how good or bad they are - is "A".
 

JAD

Feb 20, 2012
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The structure is different in So Cal. Almost all of the rec leagues are under the ASA/USA umbrella, and are either "B" or "C". The difference in classification is related to the historical strength of the all-star program. "B" leagues tend to be larger programs with 500+ players in the league, but there are also a few smaller leagues that regularly field solid all-star teams. All TB - no matter how good or bad they are - is "A".

Learned something new today and it is only 8:25am!!!
 
Aug 23, 2016
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OP here with a small update.

We have one tournament under our belt and I don't think it matters who DD's pitching coach is, I think coach is just using that as an excuse not to pitch DD. It's obvious that his #1 priority is making sure his daughter gets as much pitching time as possible.

DD had a great weekend, and even opposing coaches commented that she looks like the staff ace. She had an inning where no one could even make contact with her pitches - three up, three down, three Ks, and every swing was a swing and a miss. But coach wasn't happy and he told the team that when hitters can't make contact with your pitcher that means she's inconsistent, and that you want them to make lots of contact because that means your pitcher is throwing strikes.

By that measure, coach's kid had an awesome weekend - she gave up more than 20 runs in less than 9 innings (limited to 5 runs per inning) and one team managed to get six hard hits in a row off her.

It's almost easier knowing he's an idiot because the less he likes DD's pitching, the more I know she's on the right track.
 

JohnnyO

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May 13, 2015
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copies from an email...

To: UO Softball Program
Subject: pitching question

My local pitching coach, always tells the girls to keep their arm long and straight through the arm circle.

It also seems most of his pitchers arm “bowling “ the ball through release and not any brush interference with whip from the lower arm.

Am I on the right track here to stay away from this teaching with my daughter.




Mike's response:


I wouldn’t be in the same state as that guy! The arm needs to be relaxed and slightly “bent” – just as it hangs by your side. You are absolutely on the right track here.


Mike
 

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