DD lands with soft stride leg and doesn’t firm it up until after release

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Nov 29, 2009
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Watching the slo-mo that Shaker made for you I see her turning her landing foot at toe touch. Instead of letting her heel plant and give her a point of resistance she turns her foot and her toes are facing the hitter allowing her knee to collapse causing her to get small and her arm hand falls out of the bottom of her arm circle instead of getting into a position to support and cushion her weight.

What I tell my girls is there is an imaginary pogo stick running through them. It goes from the landing heel to the throwing shoulder. Their leg acts as the spring supporting their weight while not collapsing and the top of stick in their shoulder is the resistance point their arm rotates around.
 

shaker1

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Dec 4, 2014
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Quoted from Java's Drive Mechanics

Once the stride reaches a controlled maximum extension, the foot and thigh should internally rotate. This is easy to instruct, and is often referred to by me as setting the angle of the stride foot. I prefer a 30-45-degree angle of plant. If it’s much less, that 320 pound monster will often diffuse up the shin and into the patellar region of the knee. If the angle is greater, that 320 pound monster will act severely on the ankle and knee ligaments/musculature. In addition, less of the energy is absorbed by the knee, quads, and hips… and the result is usually a pelvic tilt. This appears as ‘butt out’ or 'chest out' to let the ball pass by…
One thing that has helped my dd was to land with a bit more closed plant foot. With her foot being more open at landing, we were seeing the same bend in the landing leg.
 
Sep 29, 2014
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Just FYI your leg should not be straight at release it is bent...but bent does not mean soft necessarily. The biggest two issues I see is what coach James mentioned the timing issue her release point looks a little past where it should be and her elbow drifts well past her hip and probably more important is at 9 oclock her arm is locked out and ball is facing third getting closer to palm up and more bend in the arm are more important than whats going on with her feet, her drive mechanics seem OK she seems a little closed at release but again I think that is more timing than anything else.

Having upload issues but pause any elite pitcher at release and you will see the leg is slightly bent...just saying that is not what I would focus on.
 
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Jan 7, 2014
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Holy ambiguous folks...I had a 400 word fix typed up for this and then stopped and deleted my post...

Riseball has the correct answer...but THAT solution is weeks or even months in the making...

Let me give this some perspective...

Forget the original post for a minute...

Hypothetical...

This girl waits 2 months to get on your schedule for a lesson...she walks into your gym\facility and the best you can do is tell her is that her timing is off and lengthening her back swing will fix her knee bend???

There are reasons why people come see me from 2 hours away 3x a week...I have 4 things upstream I would correct before I would worry about her leakiness on the front side...CP
 
Jan 7, 2014
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Let's take a step back...I will explain the disconnection...

I'll post more in the morning...I just got home from a lesson...yes...a lesson at 11PM!?!

When you throw 63 and you are 10th grader, we make time :)

CP
 
Jan 7, 2014
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Here is what I'm talking about...

The lower and upper get disconnected almost immediately when she starts the pitch. What connects the upper and the lower? The middle...the weight needs to shift properly and she needs to get her hips forward...Once she gets her weight shift corrected, tell her to thrust her belly button towards the catcher as she starts to move out...

Here is Blair Luna: Note the "h" and hip position relative to your DD's

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I super slo-mo'd your DD to show you what I mean...

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CP
 
Aug 20, 2017
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Thanks Chris! I see what you mean. Need to get weight back before working hands. Work hands and start going forward as hands go back
 

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