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    What are good drills to get pitcher to throw in more of a whip fashion vs a straight armed fashion?

    Thanks in advance!

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    Just lots of patience to get from relaxed throws to long toss to walk-thrus and finally full motion. Oh, and of course about 20k reminders along the way .


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    These are helpful:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqNnDS2YYzc
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4Jd7GKg5Q
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTFRgE6wwVM

    It always amazes me which cues work for different kids. Sometimes, just telling them to feel a whip or snap at the pocket does the trick. Others need the IR progression. "Eyes closed and feel the whip" can be helpful. Some kids do better when they try a full circle. Reminding them to pull the loose, lower arm around into the whip can help. Let the lower arm, hand and ball just hang from the elbow. Remind them not to aim and that whip initially feels out of control. Let it whip--don't throw it.

    Posture is always a part of the progression and most times, I encourage kids to step or walk into the whip. Always roll up onto the toe and gently squeeze the knees. I demo palm up at 9 o'clock and sometimes have them look back at the ball. Sometimes I use a ball with a dot marked between the narrow seams and ask them to throw the dot (pinky-side) at the net/target.

    An adult catcher or net, with no emphasis on control is a key. I don't care where it goes as long as it looks good.

    Fastpitch Dad's suggestion of feedback is critical. Slow mo video is also very helpful for both coach and kid. As they begin to show a little consistency, ask them if a whip was good or not. As soon as they're able, I want them to tell me "good" or "bad" before I can say something AND why.
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    To get the feel for the whip, teach her to skip rocks on a pond, river or lake. She has to whip the arm to get the rock to skip.
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    if you are going to get into double digits!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annesdad View Post
    What are good drills to get pitcher to throw in more of a whip fashion vs a straight armed fashion?

    Thanks in advance!
    Write a letter, troll grout, shovel concrete, brush paint a wall, throw a frisbee, hit a ping pong ball...

    Bill has some video's out on YouTube that you may wish to take a look through. He describes his view about the importance of working with the hands together, as well as the role of the hands staying above the waist can play in helping to promote what you're interested in achieving.

    An example of what that would look like...



    Note, the throwing hinge (elbow) isn't allowed to achieve a lockout position at any point in the arm circle, from 6-to-6. The elbow is thus allowed to work it's hinge at all points inbetween which in theory will allow for elbow whip and "I/R" to occur naturally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colin View Post
    if you are going to get into double digits!
    I don't follow. What does this mean?

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    IR and whip need to happen naturally... continue to promote an adducting, palm up pull, and the whip, brush and IR will "just happen"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluggers View Post
    To get the feel for the whip, teach her to skip rocks on a pond, river or lake. She has to whip the arm to get the rock to skip.
    Older DD skippin' rocks in flip flops:
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