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Feb 3, 2010
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Why it's called a curveball--I might never know. Using a 4 seam FB grip, think about pulling down the front of the ball at release--kind of like a flip change in fastpitch. I wouldn't focus on the bend in the elbow--just pull the lower arm/ball into release with the body, shoulder and upper arm. Sequence is everything...
 
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Jan 28, 2017
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Why it's called a curveball--I might never know. Using a 4 seam FB grip, think about pulling down the front of the ball at release--kind of like a flip change in fastpitch. I wouldn't focus on the bend in the elbow--just pull the lower arm/ball into release with the body, shoulder and upper arm. Sequence is everything...

Curveball? DD throws a pretty good palm up CB.
 
Apr 12, 2015
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A dropball thrown overhand is called a curve in baseball. Do you mean rollover drop? If so, I would recommend not throwing it at all.

There is a pitch we call a crop duster around here that is very similar to what Ken describes. Ricketts used to throw something very similar if I remember correctly.
 
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Sep 3, 2015
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You must mean a rollover drop. As it's already been suggested, I would also just stick with the peel drop

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Jan 28, 2017
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In our area everyone calls it overhand drop but it's rollover drop. PC has around 50 girls that he teaches. I know around 15 of them and my DD is the only one he teaches the rollover to that I know of. I've never asked him why. He teaches everyone else the peel. My DD was throwing it great for about two months last year and then just lost it. He didn't let her throw it for about three months and now she's working on it again but it's not close to where it was. Looking for clues to help her out. She threw it so natural to begin with.
 
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Feb 3, 2010
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Oops! Sorry! I was thinking baseball!

For the rollover, start by moving the ring finger tip to the stripe and releasing off of it. To take a little speed off, whip the thumb down the front of the ball at release. If it helps, try releasing off of the pinky.
 
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Oops! Sorry! I was thinking baseball!

For the rollover, start by moving the ring finger tip to the stripe and releasing off of it. To take a little speed off, whip the thumb down the front of the ball at release. If it helps, try releasing off of the pinky.

Still not close to where it was. She will throw 2 or 3 that are pretty dang good but it just doesn't look natural. What do you teach as far as release point?
 
Apr 12, 2015
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Still not close to where it was. She will throw 2 or 3 that are pretty dang good but it just doesn't look natural. What do you teach as far as release point?

Teaching a release point is a fallacy. You will hear it often..."Release a little sooner" or "Release a little later" and so on. Ridiculous advice. Think about it. You are asking a pitcher to make an adjustment of literally millimeters within a time period of literally milliseconds.

The only way to "teach" a release point, on any pitch, is the same way you teach location....repetition, repetition, repetition and after that.....more repetition. The athletes mind and body will eventually synchronize for the desired result.

Outside of the macro scope of brush triggered release, there is no way to "teach" fine tuning a release point.

Going back to earlier in the thread, I'll just reiterate the point that you are really much better off just going with a peel drop over a rollover drop. Just my opinion, but it is easier to throw, easier to control, and has less of injury. Rollovers will tend to contort the pitching motion.
 
Feb 17, 2014
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Teaching a release point is a fallacy. You will hear it often..."Release a little sooner" or "Release a little later" and so on. Ridiculous advice. Think about it. You are asking a pitcher to make an adjustment of literally millimeters within a time period of literally milliseconds.

The only way to "teach" a release point, on any pitch, is the same way you teach location....repetition, repetition, repetition and after that.....more repetition. The athletes mind and body will eventually synchronize for the desired result.

Outside of the macro scope of brush triggered release, there is no way to "teach" fine tuning a release point.

Going back to earlier in the thread, I'll just reiterate the point that you are really much better off just going with a peel drop over a rollover drop. Just my opinion, but it is easier to throw, easier to control, and has less of injury. Rollovers will tend to contort the pitching motion.

This is a common misconception about the release point. It is about sooner or later but best described by front or back. It is about the location of the point of release which a common adjustment for elite level pitchers. Reps with the incorrect release point/location is counterproductive. A rolloever can certainly be thrown without contortion or injury. Thrown properly it is easy to throw and a very effective pitch.
 
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