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Apr 19, 2015
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First time post, looking for some advice/feedback on my 12yr old. Just started pitching about a year ago and working off an on over past 12 months, but more off than on. After taking the season off, we're back at it and hoping to be at a point where she can get some game time next spring. One thing we are seeing is that she throws hard at 9 o'clock but losing whip when going full motion. I have two videos that I hope will come through:

[video]https://youtu.be/s8k-IcXmIkI[/video]
[video]https://youtu.be/HlrTXg64Aws[/video]

Thanks
 
Jan 4, 2012
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Lookz enthusiastic... Feet First perspective... Kinda hard to really tell with out a plate to push off... and soft surface to see toe drag. I do like her get her foot planted @ closer to 90 degree...or "toe towards the Target" Looks Legal to me :cool:
 
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Apr 5, 2013
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Back on the dirt...
Kinda inline with the others. Get her back knee to the front knee with the rear laces to the catcher and try not to fall forward. Good base to start with.

But I am far from an expert. Just a dad that has tried to learn myself. Best of luck and keep us updated.


http://www.discussfastpitch.com/softball-pitching/29540-front-side-resistance.html

Added link to front side resistance. Java explains the "knee to knee" way better. More of an addiction of the legs than knee to knee but I have seen it help some pitchers to get them to feel the mechanic.
 
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Sep 29, 2014
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First there is a lot to like...but you asked because you want her to get better so here goes.

Biggest thing I see is your front side resistance at release seems to be lacking, as well as the dragging anchor with the sideways turned back foot.

I would really focus on your posture and balance at release. You can see by the way she is following through the pitch versus simply fall back because she is not balance properly.

I'm going to post side by side stills with Amanda as the model pitcher so you can look at exactly what I'm talking about.

1) Front side is not resisting allowing all the motion to come forward
2) Back is starting to go past straight and forward (a result of not enough resistance)
3) Back foot is turned to the side dragging the ground versus turned with toe grazing the ground
4) Finally I'm going to let experts validate and I can't believe I'm even saying this because closing the door seems to be bad, bad, bad advice most of the time...but it looks like so is too open on her release and while we can't see from the angle my guess is it is impacting her ability to get proper brush interference (but maybe it is just the angle playing tricks on me), video from the back would validate whats really going on

Again validate all this input with what others say and take it or leave. and remember what I said up front there is a lot to like but there is always room for improvement.

release amanda.JPGrelease dd.JPG
 
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Apr 19, 2015
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WNY
First there is a lot to like...but you asked because you want her to get better so here goes.

Biggest thing I see is your front side resistance at release seems to be lacking, as well as the dragging anchor with the sideways turned back foot.

I would really focus on your posture and balance at release. You can see by the way she is following through the pitch versus simply fall back because she is not balance properly.

I'm going to post side by side stills with Amanda as the model pitcher so you can look at exactly what I'm talking about.

1) Front side is not resisting allowing all the motion to come forward
2) Back is starting to go past straight and forward (a result of not enough resistance)
3) Back foot is turned to the side dragging the ground versus turned with toe grazing the ground
4) Finally I'm going to let experts validate and I can't believe I'm even saying this because closing the door seems to be bad, bad, bad advice most of the time...but it looks like so is too open on her release and while we can't see from the angle my guess is it is impacting her ability to get proper brush interference (but maybe it is just the angle playing tricks on me), video from the back would validate whats really going on

Again validate all this input with what others say and take it or leave. and remember what I said up front there is a lot to like but there is always room for improvement.

View attachment 10913View attachment 10914

Thanks DJ, I really appreciate the feedback, especially the side by side and can't wait to show her!
 
Sep 29, 2014
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As far as not closing enough, instead of using that as a que, just let her focus on the foot turned towards the pitcher laces forward, I actually think that might be what looks wrong in the picture.

Go ahead and just have her stand like she looks in the picture, then have her turn her back foot so it looks like Amanda's laces to the pitcher and let her feel what that does to her hip she should feel it release or let go, try it yourself so you can feel what I'm talking about.
 
May 3, 2014
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One of the things I look for is the "look" of leap vs drive. This looks more leap to me pulling the drive leg away from the rubber instead of the drive leg pushing off the rubber. In another thread leg adduction was mentioned and this is the difference to me. Front side resistance with good drive will result in adduction. Leaping and pulling the drive leg even with decent front side resistance won't get the same easy adduction and would require either a contrived "hip snap" or some kind of rear leg forced IR/adduction.
 

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