New team. New HE coach dilemma.

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May 17, 2012
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I would just let it play out. The one thing coaches like to do above all others is win. If your DD pitches well her way I doubt the coach brings it up. If she struggles though....
 

marriard

Not lost - just no idea where I am
Oct 2, 2011
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Let's review:

- The young lady in question throws quite well with I/R
- This is a team where the Head Coach is a PC who teaches HE.
- This PC is a former pitcher who we must assume threw with HE.
- This team already has 4 pitchers all who take lessons from the HC/PC who teaches HE.
- During the tryouts the coach was already attempting to convert the young lady in question to HE.

Regardless of great intentions, wishful thinking, and courteous conversations, based on the collective experience of this board please tell me on what planet this works out just fine?

Well if she plays for me and wins...

I've had plenty of unconventional players play for me in other sports (not so much in softball) - if they can execute I play them and if they are not interested in changing, so be it as long as they are being successful and effective in line with the team goals.

But then I am proactive about it - I will ask the player and I will talk to the parents about whether they want to make the change to better mechanics IMHO or just leave it as it is. There is more than one to do most skills, so while I firmly believe is how pitch mechanics and hitting mechanics SHOULD be taught and learned and executed, it might not be the only way to be successful. I am good with that...

The player and the parents also just need to realize that if unconventional = poor performance, they can expect that the player is going to be judged more harshly. You hit .500 but are unconventional you play... if you hit .100 then you are on the bench and you better think about learning a new way if you don't like it there.

But again - it is how stubborn or set the coach is. [MENTION=10413]riseball[/MENTION] is right - in MOST cases this never goes real well.
 
Dec 10, 2015
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Chautauqua County
absolutely agree, marriard. if you can do it my way, fine. if you can do it your way, fine. but if you refuse to do it my way and you can't do it your way, that's not fine at all.
 
Jun 18, 2012
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With all good pitching coaches (or people who people who think they know enough to tell pitchers what they should be doing), if they aren't students of pitching, they won't generally be worth spit.

I have great respect for the likes of Pauly, Balswick, Javasource, Boardmember, and what really sticks out with most of them is that they are truly curious.... ALWAYS curious (always, themselves, students). Humility!

These HE folks simply have their heads in the sand because they are not curious (i.e., they generally don't think there is anything else for them to learn about pitching). HE is tantamount to HISS (head in sand syndrome). Is that blunt enough?
 

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