turning hand clockwise at release

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Dec 10, 2015
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Hi all, my 9 yo DD is getting into the habit of turning her hand outward instead of inward at release. It doesn't seem to have much adverse effect at her age and skill level; but I don't think this is what we want. I appreciate, as always, any ideas and opinions.
 
Have you looked at this with video or just live eye test?
I would be surprised if the hand is turning out at time of release......the joints are not designed to naturally do that. I am guessing that the immediate move at time of release is inward and then as an unloading process the hand turns out......this is what happens with many high level pitchers.
Can you post a video?
What you described could be a real safety/health issue so you certainly want to correct this ASAP.
 
Aug 24, 2015
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Hi all, my 9 yo DD is getting into the habit of turning her hand outward instead of inward at release. It doesn't seem to have much adverse effect at her age and skill level; but I don't think this is what we want. I appreciate, as always, any ideas and opinions.
My 10 yr DD sometimes does the same thing. Her pitching coach says she throws a natural screwball. I asked if this was a problem she told me no. She will just have to learn to control her arm action when throwing other pitches. Hope this helps

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bmd

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I am not a pitching coach just a learning parent. But I can not find any thing natural about throwing a screwball. If Rick Pauly thinks that what your dd is possibly doing could be a safety issue... stop look and listen. I feel like I have won the lottery when someone with his expertise comments on my questions.
 
Dec 10, 2015
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Chautauqua County
thank you all, especially you, Rick. I'm eyeballing this but a better explanation is that she is coming in ok to release point but instead of releasing with fingers down and hand facing catcher and then rolling over , she keeps her hand slicing and facing out. almost like she is spinning the ball clockwise, almost like a rise ball fingers movement. she then works on exaggerating the opposite shoulder touch. it's definitely wonky. yes, we're working on proper rotation and I was just wondering if anyone had seen this before.
 
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thank you all, especially you, Rick. I'm eyeballing this but a better explanation is that she is coming in ok to release point but instead of releasing with fingers down and hand facing catcher and then rolling over , she keeps her hand slicing and facing out. almost like she is spinning the ball clockwise, almost like a rise ball fingers movement. she then works on exaggerating the opposite shoulder touch. it's definitely wonky. yes, we're working on proper rotation and I was just wondering if anyone had seen this before.

Does this sound like instead of bowling she is naturally finding i/r to anybody else but me??
 
Dec 10, 2015
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Chautauqua County
yes, she is a IR pitcher in training. So, no, she is not a bowler or HE. It's just a really strange way of doing things which I may or may not change or alter. I just was looking for good feedback. So, thank you all.
 

sluggers

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Yes, also called a corkscrew fastball. Cat Osterman has said this is how she was taught to throw in the beginning.

Personally, I don't like the motion and would try to train it away.

??? Corkscrew pitch *is* a screwball. Most kids throw a corkscrew pitch for a riseball.

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