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Jul 20, 2013
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No IR oriented PC's in my area and would need a plane or boat to get to one so virtual lessons is where I'm left looking.

Like many of you I have been forming my IR knowledge around BM and personally for me Rick Pauly's teachings and find them compatible in many ways. Lately been leaning toward Rick's materials just because you can find it on youtube and format is easy to follow. I can easily have DD watch a couple of his videos, take notes, and review so for us it's good.

Do any of you have experience with Gillis and his lessons? Do you think it would more or less "mess up" the process. My biggest problem with Dad/DD sessions is we have no "pro" structure to work on. Sure, we have our basic warm up progressions but beyond that I have no idea on the rest of the practice other than locations/corners since we're reorienting back into pitching.

DD is still at the stage where she's missing right (throws right hand) so she's beaning 8/10 batters, throws one high ball to guide it straight, usually gets 1 strike :( Very frustrating but I know how this should go. She pitched a couple years ago, took a 1-1.5 years off and we're starting again.

I know the easy stuff but as far as exercises, drills, etc. to keep things humming along, interesting, effective, etc. I find that I reach that limit quite quickly. We're still working only on fast ball, I may just introduce the change-up cues soon (since coach keeps bugging us) but I don't plan on actually practicing it at distance any time soon. Our focus is still body positions, balance of movement between upper/lower halves, posture, and a smooth drive without overstride.

We have a virtual hitting coach and that's going very well for us so I figure for pitching it's worth a lookie.
 
Jan 4, 2016
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Tried to take the Gillis virtual lessons due to the only PC's in our area teaching HE but their website doesn't work properly. If you click on anything such as purchase virtual lessons it just takes you back to the home page. I e-mailed them about it and never received a response back.
 

Me_and_my_big_mouth

witty softball quote
Sep 11, 2014
437
18
Pacific NW
No IR oriented PC's in my area and would need a plane or boat to get to one so virtual lessons is where I'm left looking.

Like many of you I have been forming my IR knowledge around BM and personally for me Rick Pauly's teachings and find them compatible in many ways. Lately been leaning toward Rick's materials just because you can find it on youtube and format is easy to follow. I can easily have DD watch a couple of his videos, take notes, and review so for us it's good.

Do any of you have experience with Gillis and his lessons? Do you think it would more or less "mess up" the process. My biggest problem with Dad/DD sessions is we have no "pro" structure to work on. Sure, we have our basic warm up progressions but beyond that I have no idea on the rest of the practice other than locations/corners since we're reorienting back into pitching.

DD is still at the stage where she's missing right (throws right hand) so she's beaning 8/10 batters, throws one high ball to guide it straight, usually gets 1 strike :( Very frustrating but I know how this should go. She pitched a couple years ago, took a 1-1.5 years off and we're starting again.

I know the easy stuff but as far as exercises, drills, etc. to keep things humming along, interesting, effective, etc. I find that I reach that limit quite quickly. We're still working only on fast ball, I may just introduce the change-up cues soon (since coach keeps bugging us) but I don't plan on actually practicing it at distance any time soon. Our focus is still body positions, balance of movement between upper/lower halves, posture, and a smooth drive without overstride.

We have a virtual hitting coach and that's going very well for us so I figure for pitching it's worth a lookie.

We love Rick Pauly. Bought all his stuff, and he's on DFP so he makes himself very accessible. He teaches in a way that my daughter understands, and we can pick a few things to work on and then focus on one at a time in order of priority for her. We really want him to make a visit to the Northwest so we can fangirl over him. :)

I made a notebook for her with the exercises he recommends, and she's significantly changed her warm up, too. She works through the notebook and writes her notes and dates. We reprint as needed. It keeps her engaged and shows her where to make her own adjustments. (I just screenshot Sarah as example for reference and include in the notebook.)

His philosophy is that it's all about that whip - so get that first, then tweak other stuff. We also use the stickies in the I/R forum from BM and Java, and we throw in some Hillhouse because he's amazing, too - then add a pinch of coach's eye so the "I'M NOT DOING THAT [insert thing that makes her look like she's spastic]" is indisputable on video.

Then for small I/R work: This is where it's the gospel of BM. :) There are days when we will only have her work small (lock it in, 9 o'clock, etc) and I think those days are just as effective in her development as full-on pitching, because it's creating muscle memory in a controlled environment. She's been at this a while, but having her return to those basic movements seems to calm her and allow her to center herself when she's working on drive mechanics or a new pitch and the whip gets wonky.

Then, when you're ready for work on drive, Java's the man. Two-step, Push-back. . . Great exercises.

I would bet that you'll get some awesome feedback here, because all these fellas are available and they are awesome about sharing their knowledge. Just thought you'd like the dumb-parent perspective.

Good luck! You can do it and so can she! :)

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JJsqueeze

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Jul 5, 2013
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Isn't this whole forum basically a large set of virtual lessons? My DNA copy has been pretty much 99% trained by virtual lessons from the folks on this board. It's really simple, you post a video and folks give you feedback and guidance on what to work on. So far it has been pretty effective...and cheap.

Of course you get what you pay for so if you get a chance to get professional virtual lessons from one of the gurus, by all means go for it. Digging through my crappy jokes, Doug's complaining about HS ball, Ken's incessant thread bumping, Riseball's diatribes on mask wearing and FFS' random off topic drive by's are enough to drive a parent crazy. Go straight to the source I say and get Rick, or Bill, or Java or Rich to give you a breakdown and you will be very happy. Do not under any circumstances pay Doug Gillis or one of the Tincher tribe for this however. They do not post here so I refuse to promote their products the way I just did our beloved gurus.

as you were.
 
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Me_and_my_big_mouth

witty softball quote
Sep 11, 2014
437
18
Pacific NW
Isn't this whole forum basically a large set of virtual lessons? My DNA copy has been pretty much 99% trained by virtual lessons from the folks on this board. It's really simple, you post a video and folks give you feedback and guidance on what to work on. So far it has been pretty effective...and cheap.

That's exactly how I see it. Just have to sort it out and take what your girl needs.

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