Found the brush assisted whip

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fanboi22

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Long time lurker, first time poster. Hope the gif works. I have been reading this forum since Hal Skinner was still allowed and BoardMember was just starting to change the world (mad props to JavaSource for carrying the torch). I was a beginning bucket dad and realized i knew nothing about pitching, let alone anything about the sport of fastpitch. Born and raised a beer league slowpitcher i had no clue what i was getting into. Funny how protective PC's are about the dogma of their sport. Originally 8yo, my now 10yo DD started down the Finch HE style of pitching and could never keep a ball anywhere in front of the backstop. I researched a bit to try and find how i could help her and after I had watched over an hour of Hillhouse videos and seemed to understand the simplicity of the motion, DD's PC (who taught HE and slam the door) told me Hillhouse style was not effective and didn't believe in it, watch Jennie Finch and do what she does.........ok. I didn't know what i was looking for so started finding Finch videos. Nothing seemed to help.

So I started to research as much as possible and found little on the interwebs that was very useful until i found DFP. Many many hours of reading, printing I/R in the classroom, and following the arguments that riseballs didn't actually jump, i realized that there was alot of knowledge on this site that didn't seem to actually be available locally. I guess i had to try myself.

Many hours of work, reverse chaining, liberty drill, I/R, all the tag words that are relevant on this site brings us to where we are today. Key phrase "throw from pocket" seemed to work and video'd a short clip of her. Again, hopefully the GIF works.

Thanks to everyone here, it looks like she found the brush assisted whip that I had read so much about. We now need to continue to spend time on getting the full circle down as well as the drive mechanics and front side resistance. I think she now gets it and can feel the ball explode out of her hand.

Problem now is that she likes catching better.....:p

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[video]http://gph.is/1GUg6Ea[/video]

any help on embedding GIF is welcome thanks.
 
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fanboi22

on the journey
Nov 9, 2015
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Thank you. Your comments have been influential as well. Most recently I agree with your comments on Pauly's release video. That is what got DD to actually start brushing hip. What is always most difficult is translating the discussions/videos into something that a 10yo can understand. This has been my biggest obstacle to date.
 
Feb 3, 2010
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Nice work! I really like the "pocket" cue as well.

Two suggestions: Even closer to the pocket. Strive for no gap between the thigh/hand. The other is to avoid the shoulder follow through for now.


Ken





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javasource

6-4-3 = 2
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Two suggestions, Ken? I think that's four...or am I just seeing double? ;)

She looks good. Teaching a kid to throw is an obstacle... and you are doing very well. Kudos.
 
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. I researched a bit to try and find how i could help her and after I had watched over an hour of Hillhouse videos and seemed to understand the simplicity of the motion, DD's PC (who taught HE and slam the door) told me Hillhouse style was not effective and didn't believe in it, watch Jennie Finch and do what she does.........ok. I didn't know what i was looking for so started finding Finch videos. Nothing seemed to help.

That's because Jennie doesn't pitch the way she talks in videos. She doesn't actually do the HE and Slam the door. Watch her slow mo pitch in a video with what is being "taught" then watch her throw in a game (try Youtube), the difference is so obvious people with glaucoma can see it.

I come to Chicago quite a bit for lessons, I'd like to get this coach's info so I can go get a lesson from him/her. :)

Bill
 

fanboi22

on the journey
Nov 9, 2015
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SE Wisconsin
Nice work! I really like the "pocket" cue as well.

Two suggestions: Even closer to the pocket. Strive for no gap between the thigh/hand. The other is to avoid the shoulder follow through for now.


Ken

Thank you for suggestion, I agree and will continue to work for that(I showed her in slow motion how she resembles Ueno with the loose release). Now that she realizes her I/R wraps her arm around the body when it gets close and doesnt slam it against her, she is working to keep her hips stacked.

I don't recall reading anything on the shoulder follow through, I see it but what suggestion do you have to cure it. Many thanks.


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Feb 3, 2010
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I don't recall reading anything on the shoulder follow through, I see it but what suggestion do you have to cure it. Many thanks.

I'd show her the video and ask her if she can feel the shoulder follow through. See if she can minimize it on her own and help out if needed with feedback. I'm ok with follow through later on, but want to make sure she's really feeling the whip and not forcing it.
 

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