Huge Bruise on Hip Bone and Inner Elbow

Its funny that this thread bounced back into conversation. As for the past 2 weeks dd has been pitching great with comfort and no bruising.....until last night anyways. I came home dd says I threw with dad this afternoon. I say Oh yea how did it go? She says mostly good but I hit my hip on 4 pitches and now look. Raises up her shirt and I see a nice shade of purple right at her hip bone ugh!!!!!!!

Can she identify why she's getting hit? Was she working on a rise or curve? Do you know how much gap is visible from the catcher's view at release? Seems counterintuitive, but when all else is well, releasing closer to the thigh is much better. Otherwise, more bend in the elbow can help (loosen up the lower arm.) Video is always best if you can...

Ken B said:

Can she identify why she's getting hit? Was she working on a rise or curve? Do you know how much gap is visible from the catcher's view at release? Seems counterintuitive, but when all else is well, releasing closer to the thigh is much better. Otherwise, more bend in the elbow can help (loosen up the lower arm.) Video is always best if you can...

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Ken: I wish! She can not identify why shes getting hit or why she isn't. DD is 12. We are not advanced enough yet to work on a rise or curve. Her PC wants dd to master each thing before moving forward. We are working on location and change up. Anyway, when she hits I really think the problem is she externally rotates all the way down to 7 sometimes to 6 like a screwball. Lead with the elbow hand inside the ball to the extreme. Then when she doesn't hit she allows the elbow to rotate and wrap. I hope I am making sense! I will video over the weekend.

It does make sense. Hoping she can loosen up and let it happen.

Ken B said:

Otherwise, more bend in the elbow can help (loosen up the lower arm.)

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Gosh that sounds bad! What I hoped to convey is that brushing with a straight arm causes more bonk than brush...

Thank you so much Ken for your input! Learning to pitch and being a parent of child that wants to learn to pitch is like a roller coaster ride....Sometimes its fun and you dont want the ride to end....sometimes its not fun at all. Biggest problems we have are finding the right cues for a child that is soo literal...

Bump......, umm, I mean brush��

I see this is an old thread but, IMHO padded elbow bads are like cortisone shots. They don't fix the problem, they just help you do it without pain.

It's pretty simple. If she's hitting her hip, arm, etc. it means she's not turning as she goes forward. 9 out of 10 times, this is caused by the stride foot pointing straight. Remember the hips go where the toes go: if they point straight, the hips will be straight, if they turn 45 degrees, the hips will usually turn 45 degrees. So, you just have to make sure her toes are turning 45 degrees during the stride and double down by telling her to hide the back shoulder from the catcher. Those two things will get her to turn. I don't really recommend drills on knees because then it's a relearning process when she has to put the timing together of stepping and throwing. For the time being, have her over exaggerate with the foot and brush the arm against the belly button.

The device in my store (also sold many other places) called Windmill trainer is exactly designed to fix this problem. Go to windmill trainer dot com to see the video. There was a fantastic looking PC doing the demo's for it, now he's resigned to only doing the DVD model.
Bill

Ken B said:

The arm might be a little too straight which I think can also result in a bump vs a brush. Although it seems counterintuitive, elbow leading/pulling into the side is preferable at 7 o'clock:

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As mentioned above, "pulling" the elbow in can be a problem if overemphasized/forced. Let whip happen.

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My dd was doing the same. Too straight and pulling the elbow into her side. Yup. My fault too. Back before I knew anything this is what I told her. Dah. Well that didn’t work. Now we pull but get that nice internal
Rotation in time enough she doesn’t slam her elbow into her hip. It was bad till you all thought me correct mechanics. And @javasource


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Ken B said:

Can she identify why she's getting hit? Was she working on a rise or curve? Do you know how much gap is visible from the catcher's view at release? Seems counterintuitive, but when all else is well, releasing closer to the thigh is much better. Otherwise, more bend in the elbow can help (loosen up the lower arm.) Video is always best if you can...

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My dd gets so close sometimes she smashes the ball into her leg. Lmao. It’s because her arm is to straight but I laugh at her because she knows what’s she did wrong. It happens. She did it in a game this weekend. That was a first in a game. Good learning lessons. Leg bruises. Ha


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